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Message: [QUOTE="billorange44, post: 1875276, member: 644"] Like I said, I haven't felt hope since McNabb was here. There were times that yes, even under Coach P, I thought they gave up. Down at Rutgers in 1999 comes to mind. I never mentioned Coach Mac who I feel was second only to Ben Schwartzwalder. At least I feel hope now. I felt on Friday that even down by 14, I had a feeling that this team could pull it out. I never felt that under Grob, Marrone or Schaffer. With them I kept waiting for the wheels to fall off when something good happened. Like Rutgers a few years ago when they had Ray Rice and we went up 14 to zip only to lose big. [/QUOTE]