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Message: [QUOTE="Forza Azzurri, post: 1267430, member: 1452"] First things, first. Going from a 3 seed to an NCAA Bubble team is not a program that is being killed. GROB was a program killer. In fact, even if going from a 3 seed to a bubble team is "killing the program", the sophomore who should get most of the blame is the one that is now playing in the NBA/D-league simply because he was really, really good and he isn't here anymore. Below are the states for the current sophomores and the sophomore stats of three former SU players who turned out to be pretty good players. Not everyone blows up right away. For some it takes time. Roberson 6.7 ppg; 7 rpg; .413 FG; .737 FT Buss 2.4 ppg; 1.9 apg; .234 FG; .171 3 FG; .25 FT BJ 4.3 ppg; 3.9 rpg; .292FG: .207 FG3; .75 FT Player 1 3.9 ppg; 2.1 rpg; .379 FG; .25 FG3; .722 FT Player 2 6.5 ppg; 2.4 rpg; .40 FG; .28 FG3; .611 FG Player 3 1.3 ppg 1.9 apg; .239 FG; .125 FG3; .769 FT Patience. [/QUOTE]