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[QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 274266, member: 204"]
I guess that's where you and I disagree.
 
I don't think Ryan "struggled" in 2011.
 
He set season passing records in almost every category.
 
The problem is that without Delone Carter, Marcus Sales and a few others he didn't have all that much help.
 
Again, as I have said, as disappointing as the offense might have been, it was the defense that was the real culprit last year - and that was the producte of having to replace seven very solid starters from 2010.
 
I don't think I dodged the question. I thought the question dealt with recruiting success at the QB level. I guess I must have misread your post.
 
So, now the issue is the development of the other QBs.  
 
Okay. I don't think anybody should be surprised that nobody right now appears ready to unseat a two year starter - and a senior going into 2012 - especially a guy who as noted above set all sorts of passing records last season. In short, Ryan has produced a bit more than you think he has, though he is not a great college player. He is good enough though to retain his position at this point. And that should not be all that surprising.    
 
We did not see Terrell Hunt this spring so we really don't know where he is at this point. According to some he will play at some point this year, so the jury is still out on his development. I guess we'll see perhaps where Loeb and Kinder are in the fall.
 
Loeb was a rather late recruit - I'm not sure anybody expected a lot out of him, though I could be wrong.

Kinder has a lot of work to do. I guess we'll see what happens.
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