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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4752028, member: 237"] His relationship to her overlapped with his job as a coach. It's no different than relationships at a place of employment with a vendor. Payment doesnt have to be exchanged. Thus the relationship that ensued was fostered through his position as coach. It's very simple. At the very minimum it's something called out in any company's code of conduct and compliance policies. Thus everything underneath of that is problematic moreso than the already problematic relationship between them. At the bare minimum will be MSU's own policies. Now take into consideration the history with Nassar and I'm willing to bet that MSU likely has a much more robust policy on employee- vendor- student etc relationships. I think you are getting this confused with him going to prison etc. That's the "everything else" I was speaking to that I'm sure will be sorted out. At a bare minimum he acted irresponsibly using his position to help propagate a relationship with an external business associate. That's before you get into the Title IX issues here and even on the surface there are very much concerns. From a reputational risk standpoint paired with misconduct in accordance with employment policy he is toast. They can work out the rest away from Mich St and you can argue the tenets of their relationship but he doesn't have much to stand on here. Also just one other side note- as someone who has a couple very close friends with experience as victims of sexual assault- this is not something that a switch is flipped at a certain point. It's a pain and vulnerability that they live with for life that does make them more vulnerable to being taken advantage of again- that means there is a moral responsibility here for someone like Tucker who is a self proclaimed ally/advocate. [/QUOTE]

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