Speaking of partying, I would think the best option for a team of

[IthacaBarrel]

this level, in a program that is trying to be great again and rebuild, the best policy would be not to drink during the season. It would solve a ton of issues. We are talking 4 months here. It makes a huge differnce, in my opinion. It has to come from the senior captains though. Sure, it won't effect some guys but I think it makes a huge statement from a committment level

 

[kingottoiii]

Thats BS. Kids shouldnt be drinking during the week but why can't they have fun Sat night? How does that effect their play?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Thats BS. Kids shouldnt be drinking during the week but why can't they have fun Sat night? How does that effect their play?

It's not BS... its easier to draw the line. NO DRINKING. One night? sure but it doesn't stop on a Saturday night.. In addition, it depends on how much. The less gray area during the season the better and this seems to be a problem for this program for some time now. It has been done before, not in the last 20 years but it has been done. One team in the late eighties did it. I would have to ask Buddah what year it was, it may have been 87, sure that could be a coincidence but we also had a hell of a group of seniors then. Some kids can't handle the freedom

OK, if drinking is allowed on Saturday nights what type of voluntary film watching, workouts etc will these kids be doing on Sunday. I don't know the schedule for SU but a lot of teams practice Sunday afternoon and take off Monday. These kids aren't normal students, especially during the season.

You want to be special, sell out for the team for 4 months. In addition, nothing good has ever come from drinking, nothing, especially because 60% of them aren't even legal. I understand that isn't a real big issue, nor is it for me but still.

Gulley, Sales, West, Marinovich, just to name a few that have foind themselves in some precarious situations

 

[kingottoiii]

Say good bye to every recruit. There is no way in hell a kid will go to a school where they can't have fun. This isn't the NFL. They are college kids. Letting them blow off steam and have fun once a week is the right thing to do. If kids are drinking during the week it will show in practice and they should be benched. Easy solution. As to Sunday don't have meetings early in the morning. This shouldn't be hard.

 

[Whitey23]

My lacrosse team in college had a dry season. What a brutal 4 months. Didn't help us at all. Cabin fever set in. Had to spend too much time together to avoid partying.

 

[SmilinBob]

Maybe a sleepover night and they can watch Princess Diaries!

Kids now a days have to do this football thing 12 months a year and they have to have some time to be kids and enjoy the whole legal college experience.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Say good bye to every recruit. There is no way in hell a kid will go to a school where they can't have fun. This isn't the NFL. They are college kids. Letting them blow off steam and have fun once a week is the right thing to do. If kids are drinking during the week it will show in practice and they should be benched. Easy solution. As to Sunday don't have meetings early in the morning. This shouldn't be hard.

It will also show on gameday... just my opinion. and it has, IMO

 

[Cusee44]

In that same line of thought, we should actually ban alcohol nation wide! It'll raise productivity and everyone will be healthier! Why would/should anyone complain!?!? or wait a minute...

 

[orangenirvana]

Good luck enforcing that rule.

 

[gocraz4dasu]

They are college students. They are going to drink whether or not its allowed to

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Good luck enforcing that rule.[/quote

It has to be a players thing nit from the coach.. I am not saying it is easy

 

[Upstate]

Marrone allows the kids to be kids...within reason (i.e. when Mike Williams almost died on the trip back from Turning Stone)

 

[SmilinBob]

It will also show on gameday... just my opinion. and it has, IMO

I see where you're coming from ib it's just that I think they have to be kids too.

 

[suorange08]

Say good bye to every recruit. There is no way in hell a kid will go to a school where they can't have fun.

What about BYU? I know Syracuse is not a religious school though BYU's students can't have alcohol, coffee, tea, tobacco, premarital sex or use foul language, yet they seem to recruit pretty well.

 

[ljmilman]

What about BYU? I know Syracuse is not a religious school though BYU's students can't have alcohol, coffee, tea, tobacco, premarital sex or use foul language, yet they seem to recruit pretty well.

Except aren't a large portion of their recruits Mormons (and the Honor Code is derived from the rules of the Mormon church)?

 

[Scooch]

I would suspect that most kids who end up having a problem with alcohol would just sneak drinks during this self-imposed ban anyway.

 

[BlazeOrange]

I would suspect that most kids who end up having a problem with alcohol would just sneak drinks during this self-imposed ban anyway.

Then you'll end up with factions developing between the drinkers, those who condone it, and the players that are enforcing their internal rule.

Or, if in-season prohibition becomes an official team rule, we would end up having to discipline/suspend players that our opponents aren't.

 

[All4SU]

It will also show on gameday... just my opinion. and it has, IMO

How exactly has it "shown on gameday"? I assume you're talking something specific, and not just referring to poor play on the field. What is the direct correlation to game day that you can make to Saturday night fun?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

How exactly has it "shown on gameday"? I assume you're talking something specific, and not just referring to poor play on the field. What is the direct correlation to game day that you can make to Saturday night fun?

Wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole but I do have an answer just am not going to post it on the internet, other than it's not just Saturday night...

 

[dollarbill44]

this level, in a program that is trying to be great again and rebuild, the best policy would be not to drink during the season. It would solve a ton of issues. We are talking 4 months here. It makes a huge differnce, in my opinion. It has to come from the senior captains though. Sure, it won't effect some guys but I think it makes a huge statement from a committment level

I think there are better ways to handle this then a team policy. The best way is typically for a bunch of team leaders to band together and announce to the team that they are foregoing drinking during the season as a sign of their dedication and ask others to step up.

When you make it a mandatory rule, you will likely lose some recruits, as others have said, and you will also create a groups of guys drinking in small groups.

Guys that can't stay sober enough to keep their performance up would not adhere to the rules anyway.

 

[atcar]

It's not BS... its easier to draw the line. NO DRINKING. One night? sure but it doesn't stop on a Saturday night.. In addition, it depends on how much. The less gray area during the season the better and this seems to be a problem for this program for some time now. It has been done before, not in the last 20 years but it has been done. One team in the late eighties did it. I would have to ask Buddah what year it was, it may have been 87, sure that could be a coincidence but we also had a hell of a group of seniors then. Some kids can't handle the freedom

OK, if drinking is allowed on Saturday nights what type of voluntary film watching, workouts etc will these kids be doing on Sunday. I don't know the schedule for SU but a lot of teams practice Sunday afternoon and take off Monday. These kids aren't normal students, especially during the season.

You want to be special, sell out for the team for 4 months. In addition, nothing good has ever come from drinking, nothing, especially because 60% of them aren't even legal. I understand that isn't a real big issue, nor is it for me but still.

Gulley, Sales, West, Marinovich, just to name a few that have foind themselves in some precarious situations

It was the '87 team and if I remember correctly the coaching staff didn't come up with the policy, the Seniors did, and they enforced it.

 

[cuseincincy]

"This level." It's college basketball played by college kids.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

It was the '87 team and if I remember correctly the coaching staff didn't come up with the policy, the Seniors did, and they enforced it.

Thanks thought so... I guess those guys had no fun

 

[rosconey]

Say good bye to every recruit. There is no way in hell a kid will go to a school where they can't have fun. This isn't the NFL. They are college kids. Letting them blow off steam and have fun once a week is the right thing to do. If kids are drinking during the week it will show in practice and they should be benched. Easy solution. As to Sunday don't have meetings early in the morning. This shouldn't be hard.

like byu-they never get any talent-lol

 

[kingottoiii]

like byu-they never get any talent-lol

Um you do realize that they get Mormons. :crazy: All those kids don't drink already before they get to BYU. Everyone one of them go on a mission as well, which is why they have 25 year old SRs.