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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 3958268, member: 1969"] I looked at the odds this morning for AL MVP and I saw the following: Ohtani -5000 Guerrero +1400 There is no doubt in my mind that Ohtani wins the MVP if the season ended today and is very, very likely to win the MVP at season's end. But is there value at Guerrero at +1400? Say the following: - Jays make the playoffs, Guerrero has a massive last 20 games and wins September Player of the Month. - Guerrero wins the Triple Crown (1 HR back, and 6 RBI's Back as of today) - Ohtani struggles on the mound to close the season (His ERA has raised from 2.79 to 3.36 in his last 3 starts -- what if it continues to trend downwards) At this point it becomes much closer. Not saying that Guerrero is likely to win the award. Not even close to that. Just that there are scenarios that make +1400 seem like decent value. [/QUOTE]