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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 3227999, member: 652"] Keep defending 7-9 nobody is right or wrong. Episode 8 hurt the franchise though. The revenue expected for 9 was lower than projected. It’s still a success but 8 hurt the franchise. Johnson killed Snoke off in 8 when JJ and Colin didn’t want that to happen. Johnson also was the one to create the Rose character and the wrote subplot on the casino. JJ was dealt a bad hand by giving the keys to Johnson. He made a good movie in 9 but he had a lot of work to overcome. JJ completely redid the perception of Luke after 8. People don’t have to dislike 8 but it definitely hurt the flow of the story this trilogy. Palpetine being alive in the manner he was just lazy and it was only done because Johnson killed the supposed big bad in this trilogy in a throwaway way in 8. [/QUOTE]