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Message: [QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 3264898, member: 966"] I only just saw it last night. Throughout most of it I kinda wished it would just end. I kept waiting for the ‘horse riding’ scene, and the longer the film went before that just meant there was going to be more film to come. But, nearer the end, i kinda liked a few scenes. [SPOILER="Spoiler"] When I was a kid, I read some of the ‘auxiliary books.’ Enjoyed them then. But I’m glad I don’t remember anything from them. Prolly would make enjoying the films even more difficult, because there was so much material, and the filmmakers just can’t make everyone happy. I hated the gravity physics. Dropping bombs, when spaceships ‘fall’ after exploding, having Fin struggling to hang on to an overturning starship, etc... Whatever. I thought this film was quite unfunny. The banter that was supposed to be cute just wasn’t. I think i laughtd once, and it was from something no one else in the theater reacted to. I don’t even remember what it was. I hated the thing in he last film with Poe doing the ‘phone call trick’ the ship bridge. I don’t like ‘cutesy’ in my sci-fi. Rey was good. Never cared for Fin. Kylo was pretty good. He had to die, because Rey couldn’t just choose Fin over him (he’d have gone mental again) and couldn’t choose Kylo over Fin (cuz that’s racist). Glad there was not more Rose. Shocked at how much real Leia they had to work with. Han was cool. Thought they missed an opportunity to joke about how Han said something similar to Kylo in the other film, but now Kylo couldn’t kill him again. The spy reveal was insipid. If you’re going to do that, you gotta establish more than a shallow one-liner. About the “politics” thing... I don’t get it. Seems like the only people bothered about political statements in movies are those who on the wrong side of those politics. But, I don’t see them as being overtly political. There are themes in life. There are themes that writers work with. Even if the writers/producers were referencing something in contemporary life, so what. Was that perspective ‘wrong.’ I do, though, have issues with how race and cultures are portrayed in sci-if and this film series was no exception. On earth, skin tones and features evolved as a result of environment. Cultures evolved based on environments and natural resources. Those combinations of factors wouldn’t be extended to other worlds/galaxies as a rule, but every filmmaker seems to operate as if earth history is a universal truth. Yeah, palpatine’s audience was weird. You’d also think that the ruler of a universe would live a better existence than in a giant cave. Where’s the opulence? The luxury... I did like the design and aesthetics of the massive cave chamber scene when Kylo came back. Beautiful scenes. Rey adopted a name, to complete a contrived ‘circle’ and maybe later begin the next set of films with her offspring... But, that would just be a continuance of one of my other objections: that they kept everything within the same two+ families. I wish there were new stories. Haven’t seen The Mandalorian yet. No idea what that’s about, which is weird, as I do count myself as a ‘Star Wars fan.’ The magic of the original 70s-80s films was in a few things: the effects were revolutionary at the time; the lore was compelling; and the characters were brilliant in their simplicity, even if the acting and directing was actually pretty bad. The world creating and environments and atmospheres and characters really distracted from the shoddy dialog and acting. But later, when those same effects were on routine tv shows, when the characters had been known and then parodied and copied and they were no longer novel, and when the lore grew cumbersome... the magic was gone. And Lucas had too much power and his choices went too un-checked. Quite a chore to wrap all of that up, and so much of the criticism seems to come from people who have no idea what it takes to write a script, much less how to integrate one into 40 years of legacy, while considering that the original audience has also aged by 40 years. Thank all said, I really didn’t love this film, and unlike the last few, I have no immediate desire to re-view it. [/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]

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