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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 688420, member: 652"] Again using my tier system I would ranked the ACC like this Tier 1 consistent top 10 and multiple high level bowl wins, elite recruiting Florida State Tier 2 consistent top 15-25, good recruiting, multiple high level bowls Miami(moved down from Tier 1 because of recent performance), Clemson Virginia Tech, Tier 3 consistent top 25-40 status, make bowls, recruit well Georgia Tech Tier 4 good history, make bowls, but not as consistent as Tier 3, recruit really well as well North Carolina(I think they are ready to boil into Tier 3 status real soon) Louisville Tier 5- have history, and make bowls but have a flaw recruiting, history, recent performance Syracuse Boston College Virginia Pittsburgh NC State Wake Forest Duke [/QUOTE]