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Lines are already being redrawn CHARLOTTE — Imagine an ACC with basketball divisions. Now imagine those divisions being called, oh, Northern and Southern, with seven schools in each.

Guess where the line is going to be drawn?

Right here in North Carolina. The geographic Big Four, the heart and soul of the ACC since 1953, could be among the things sacrificed by a bold new league of 14 or more members.

John Swofford, the commissioner of the ACC, spoke Wednesday during the league’s Operation Basketball. He said the addition of Syracuse and Pittsburgh would effectively begin in January when the league begins to discuss scheduling.

That doesn’t mean the two schools are joining next season. They’re still in the Big East right now, and the commissioner of that league said just this week that they will remain in the Big East for the next 2½ years.

Don’t count on that happening .

And even then, don’t assume that the ACC will automatically go to divisions or 18-game or 19-game basketball schedules or a five-day ACC basketball tournament. But all those things will be discussed beginning in January.

These are uncertain times for the ACC, but that’s not a bad thing. These are uncertain times for all leagues, and for most of them that’s certainly a bad thing. The ACC is dealing from a position of strength now. Swofford knows it, and the league’s basketball coaches know it.

“This is a good time for our conference,” Mike Krzyzewski said.

The Duke coach said he wouldn’t be opposed to divisions. In fact, he said it’s probably the right thing to do. He said it’s important to keep it simple.

“North and South,” he said.

And if that means breaking up the Big Four in some divisional way, then so be it. Even if it means breaking up Duke and North Carolina.

“As long as we still play twice a year,” Krzyzewski said.

In other words, just about everything’s on the table.

Swofford didn’t spend much time Wednesday talking about recent expansion. That’s in the past. He didn’t talk much about future expansion. That suddenly seems less likely than it seemed last month. Wednesday’s talking points were about 14 schools playing basketball and what that might mean.

Among the things it might mean is the end of the mythical regular-season “championship.” If basketball goes to divisions, that will end. That won’t bother as many people as you might expect. And it will bother some others.

Krzyzewski would have no problem with it.

“That’s not how we crown our champion any- way,” he said.

Roy Williams would.

“I always believed that what you did over 14 or 16 games was more important than what you did over a weekend,” the North Carolina coach said.

Williams said it would affect scheduling outside the league, forcing him to consider ending series with the likes of Kentucky and Texas and Arizona and Michigan State.

“Mike (Krzyzewski) always said the ACC should be a national league,” Williams said.

Krzyzewski said that might be one of the things sacrificed by divisions.

This is going to be interesting, and Swofford’s hint that it could all begin in January only makes it more interesting.

“It’s likely that we will go to an 18-game (conference) schedule when we go to 14 teams,” the commissioner said. “That’s highly likely. One of the things as a conference that you want to do as you get bigger is you want to play each other as much as is reasonable and possible.”

Swofford said finding the right balance will be the key, balance for the schools and the programs and the fans. That’s not going to go over well with everyone. It’s not going to go over well with some people outside North Carolina, and it’s not going to go over well with some people within the state’s borders.

The addition of Virginia Tech, Boston College and Miami brought all sorts of changes to the ACC, some good and some not so good. The addition of Pitt and Syracuse will bring more change.

Some good, some bad and some downright blasphemous.

Imagine a day when the ACC is broken in half for basketball. Now imagine State, Carolina and Duke in the Southern Division. And not Wake. Mix and match them anyway you want, but if the ACC is happy with 14 schools, and it is, and it starts to make plans for possible divisions within the league, and it is, you’re going to see the Big Four split up.

Change has come to the ACC. And we haven’t even gotten started yet.



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Lines are already being redrawn CHARLOTTE — Imagine an ACC with basketball divisions. Now imagine those divisions being called, oh, Northern and Southern, with seven schools in each.

Guess where the line is going to be drawn?

Right here in North Carolina. The geographic Big Four, the heart and soul of the ACC since 1953, could be among the things sacrificed by a bold new league of 14 or more members.

John Swofford, the commissioner of the ACC, spoke Wednesday during the league’s Operation Basketball. He said the addition of Syracuse and Pittsburgh would effectively begin in January when the league begins to discuss scheduling.

That doesn’t mean the two schools are joining next season. They’re still in the Big East right now, and the commissioner of that league said just this week that they will remain in the Big East for the next 2½ years.

Don’t count on that happening .

And even then, don’t assume that the ACC will automatically go to divisions or 18-game or 19-game basketball schedules or a five-day ACC basketball tournament. But all those things will be discussed beginning in January.

These are uncertain times for the ACC, but that’s not a bad thing. These are uncertain times for all leagues, and for most of them that’s certainly a bad thing. The ACC is dealing from a position of strength now. Swofford knows it, and the league’s basketball coaches know it.

“This is a good time for our conference,” Mike Krzyzewski said.

The Duke coach said he wouldn’t be opposed to divisions. In fact, he said it’s probably the right thing to do. He said it’s important to keep it simple.

“North and South,” he said.

And if that means breaking up the Big Four in some divisional way, then so be it. Even if it means breaking up Duke and North Carolina.

“As long as we still play twice a year,” Krzyzewski said.

In other words, just about everything’s on the table.

Swofford didn’t spend much time Wednesday talking about recent expansion. That’s in the past. He didn’t talk much about future expansion. That suddenly seems less likely than it seemed last month. Wednesday’s talking points were about 14 schools playing basketball and what that might mean.

Among the things it might mean is the end of the mythical regular-season “championship.” If basketball goes to divisions, that will end. That won’t bother as many people as you might expect. And it will bother some others.

Krzyzewski would have no problem with it.

“That’s not how we crown our champion any- way,” he said.

Roy Williams would.

“I always believed that what you did over 14 or 16 games was more important than what you did over a weekend,” the North Carolina coach said.

Williams said it would affect scheduling outside the league, forcing him to consider ending series with the likes of Kentucky and Texas and Arizona and Michigan State.

“Mike (Krzyzewski) always said the ACC should be a national league,” Williams said.

Krzyzewski said that might be one of the things sacrificed by divisions.

This is going to be interesting, and Swofford’s hint that it could all begin in January only makes it more interesting.

“It’s likely that we will go to an 18-game (conference) schedule when we go to 14 teams,” the commissioner said. “That’s highly likely. One of the things as a conference that you want to do as you get bigger is you want to play each other as much as is reasonable and possible.”

Swofford said finding the right balance will be the key, balance for the schools and the programs and the fans. That’s not going to go over well with everyone. It’s not going to go over well with some people outside North Carolina, and it’s not going to go over well with some people within the state’s borders.

The addition of Virginia Tech, Boston College and Miami brought all sorts of changes to the ACC, some good and some not so good. The addition of Pitt and Syracuse will bring more change.

Some good, some bad and some downright blasphemous.

Imagine a day when the ACC is broken in half for basketball. Now imagine State, Carolina and Duke in the Southern Division. And not Wake. Mix and match them anyway you want, but if the ACC is happy with 14 schools, and it is, and it starts to make plans for possible divisions within the league, and it is, you’re going to see the Big Four split up.

Change has come to the ACC. And we haven’t even gotten started yet.



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Glad to see them talking about North and South divisions. It will save the ACC a lot of money in travel costs, make it easier for fans to make road trips and play up on the natural long standing rivalry between Northeast and Southeast states.

I hope joining the ACC does not result in a Waffle House infestation in upstate NY. The nearest ones right now are in Clark's Summit, Scranton and Allentown PA. None are within 100 miles. We are being attacked by so many things these days...zebra mussels, Africanized Killer Bees, the Forest Tent Caterpillar Moth, White-Nose Syndrome Bat Disease, Lyme Disease, Fraggle Rocking. I can take all of it. Except Waffle Houses.

Gaffigan on Waffle Houses

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Oh but there is always BoJangles, home of the Fried Bologna Biscuit.
 
...not as humorous...but...ISN'T IT NICE THAT A CONFERENCE is including 'Cuse and Pitt prior to their actual playing in that conference...unlike the BE holding 'Cuse and Pitt in detention and not wanting their input...Hurtful, politically incorrect, not to mention this.....k U BE
 
...not as humorous...but...ISN'T IT NICE THAT A CONFERENCE is including 'Cuse and Pitt prior to their actual playing in that conference...unlike the BE holding 'Cuse and Pitt in detention and not wanting their input...Hurtful, politically incorrect, not to mention this.....k U BE

Syracuse and Pitt voted for the exit penalties. They absolutely should be held to the conditions they approved in the first place, unless of course, as is likely, a deal is reached.

But, please, don't complain about being held accountable to something SU approved. Hypocrisy.
 
Syracuse and Pitt voted for the exit penalties. They absolutely should be held to the conditions they approved in the first place, unless of course, as is likely, a deal is reached.

But, please, don't complain about being held accountable to something SU approved. Hypocrisy.

Yeah I agree with this. If we're going to leave before the 27 months, we should have to pay more than the $5 million. If we were staying and someone else was leaving we'd want our pound of flesh from them.
 
Oh, Boo-hoo-hoo - they gotta break up the four Carolina schools.

Who do they think they're kidding? Everybody knows this conference expansion isn't ending until everybody's at 16 teams. If they are so upset about it now, then bring in UConn and/or Notre Dame/Rutgers and all of your precious Carolina schools can stay in an 8 team southern division and the rest of us Yankees can make do in our northern division.

Problem solved, moving on...
 
Syracuse and Pitt voted for the exit penalties. They absolutely should be held to the conditions they approved in the first place, unless of course, as is likely, a deal is reached.

But, please, don't complain about being held accountable to something SU approved. Hypocrisy.

agree with this but...if we are there for 27 months...then our vote should be taken on league matters that affect us during this time...
 
Syracuse and Pitt voted for the exit penalties. They absolutely should be held to the conditions they approved in the first place, unless of course, as is likely, a deal is reached.

But, please, don't complain about being held accountable to something SU approved. Hypocrisy.
SU voted on the $5M exit fee. They were not allowed to vote on the change to $10M.
 
SU voted on the $5M exit fee. They were not allowed to vote on the change to $10M.

Fox in henhouse theory...or because SU & Pitt won't be paying $10 M? I think it's the latter, so it's irrelevant.
 
Oh, Boo-hoo-hoo - they gotta break up the four Carolina schools.

Who do they think they're kidding? Everybody knows this conference expansion isn't ending until everybody's at 16 teams. If they are so upset about it now, then bring in UConn and/or Notre Dame/Rutgers and all of your precious Carolina schools can stay in an 8 team southern division and the rest of us Yankees can make do in our northern division.

Problem solved, moving on...

Seeing as how football is driving all of this, I don't think the s in charge really give a about the hurt feelings of the Carolina schools, or anyone on the hoops side for that matter.
 
Fox in henhouse theory...or because SU & Pitt won't be paying $10 M? I think it's the latter, so it's irrelevant.
Except that it destroys your point, as there is no hypocrisy involved.
 

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