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Message: [QUOTE="MSOrange, post: 5694370, member: 630"] Really good post. You do one of the best jobs at explaining some of the politics that were involved in the JB situation, at least from what I have gathered from the outside (I'm far from an insider, but just based on what transpired publicly since Hop left in 2016, it seems quite apparent to me that ADJW couldn't just pull the plug on JB anytime he wanted) The one thing we slightly disagree on is your grading on Fran. Totally get your logic that we have to think outside the box to be successful in football. But at the same time, I still think you have to give some weight to if the ideas actually work. I haven't given up on Fran, but this is a big season to turnaround from last season. [/QUOTE]