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Message: [QUOTE="mikekan14, post: 284843, member: 1619"] I like how disagreement immediately means that I "don't understand attendance at all." I concede that the large capacity of the dome may influence season ticket sales. Currently, if you want to go to a game, a ticket is always available and you don't necessarily need season tickets. I've emailed the athletic departments for SU and UK for the number of non-student season ticket holders from last season. If I get replies, I'll post the numbers. They might provide further insight. 1. You state that our non-conference home games are dragging down our attendance. Our non-conference home attendance was 20,159/game (vs 23,618 total), which is about 15% less than the season average. Is that difference more or less than you suspected (UK's is 2% less than average for non-conference attendance)? Perhaps season ticket holders would boost the non-conference attendance closer towards the season average. However, that assumes that season ticket holders attend all games when it is much more likely that they DON'T attend non-conference games. If it weren't for season ticket holders trying to get rid of seats, Stubhub wouldn't be in business - and Stubhub does not sell every ticket posted. 2. Our total attendance beat Kentucky's by 21,758. Kentucky played one less home game and averages 23,721/game. If they played an extra game even with 8% under-attendance, they'd have taken the total and average attendance crowns. 3. Our Standard deviation in per game attendance is 4863 while Kentucky's is 998. Our per game attendance is almost 5 times more variable that Kentucky's. They sell out every game (regardless of opponent) while our attendance has 5x more fluctuation, presumably because of opponent. Kentucky's attendance per game is practically at capacity so they can't accommodate the variation on the plus side of their average. We can, however, because of SU's excess capacity. My point is that the extra large attendances (33k) against L'ville and UConn allowed us to gain in attendance vs UK, which skews the statistic. We brought in 10K more fans in each of those games than UK can even fit in Rupp. It's a little misleading. I argued that playing in a football stadium gave us an advantage. Am I wrong? My points are based on the numbers. Your rebuttal is based on the hypothetical situation that IF the carrier dome was smaller - we'd win in attendance. Unfortunately, it isn't. But I don't "understand attendance" so my dissension must be wrong and struck down. All I was saying was that taking the numbers at face value is not an accurate representation of attendance. [/QUOTE]

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