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Message: [QUOTE="ForCuseSake, post: 4106188, member: 266"] Apologies for continuing the thread derailment but I wanted to add one thing on the Shrader vs. Dungey comparison. Shrader seems to be much more durable given the opportunities opposing teams have had to put big hits on him. And he ate his fair share of them this year (most obviously being the VT game winning TD toss). As much as I want a more accurate QB behind Center, I'll take a tough SOB who doesn't miss time despite getting beaten up. Granted, Eric suffered a few cheap shots that helped put him on the bench but he was also hurdling and intentionally trucking dudes. Perhaps Shrader is slightly more mature when running to avoid taking big shots. To me this is an overlooked part of his game. Pretty sure the biggest hits Shrader took were in the pocket on pass attempts. [/QUOTE]