SU transfers (to and from) over the years)

[SWC75]

(This is the third of my four Orangehoops projects - I'll post the final one tomorrow.)

I decided to use Orangehoops: Syracuse Orange Basketball Season Records to rank SU transfers (to and from) in the Boeheim Era using my “Net Point” system. For each, I’ll list their net points here, the number of games they played, (I don’t have minutes for all seasons), and the average, (p, (p game since I don’t have minutes prior to 1980-81) and the same for what they did for other schools. Did the guys who transferred here get better under Boeheim’s coaching? Did the guys who left find the grass greener? (I also list who they were playing behind here.) I ranked the first group by their total NP here and the second by their total NP at other schools. I’m limiting the list to 4 year colleges.

The “Net Points” formula: Points + Rebounds +Assists + Steals + Blocks – Missed field goals – Missed free throws – turnovers – fouls = “Net Points” Where elements of the formula are missing, I’ve put a ‘*’ next to the np.

TRANSFERS IN
Ryan Blackwell 110np in 30g (3.7) at Illinois 1995-96; 1,283np in 100g (12.8) at Syracuse 1997-2000
Leo Rautins 229np in 27g (8.5) at Minnesota 1978-79; 1,102np in 85g (13.0) at Syracuse 1980-83
Michael Gbinije 20np in 19g (1.1) at Duke 2011-12; 976np in 102g (9.6) at Syracuse 2013-16
Elijah Hughes 106np in 25g (4.2) at East Carolina 2016-17; 869np in 66g (13.2) at Syracuse 2018-20
Wes Johnson 595np in 58g (10.3) at Iowa State 2006-08; 685np in 35g (19.6) at Syracuse 2009-10
Paschal Chukwu 95np in 34g (2.8) at Providence 2014-15; 616np in 77g (8.0) at Syracuse 2015-19
LeRon Ellis 519np in 60g (8.7) at Kentucky 1987-89; 612np in 64g (9.6) at Syracuse 1989-1991
Andrew White 55np in 43g (1.2) at Kansas 2012-14; 455np in 34g (13.4) at Nebraska 2014-16; 488np in 34g (14.4) at Syracuse 2016-17
Alan Griffin 319np in 58g (5.5) at Illinois 2018-20; 372np in 28g (13.3) at Syracuse 2020-21
John Gillon 190np in 27g (7.0) at Arkansas-Little Rock 2012-13; 557np in 68g (8.2) at Colorado State 2013-16; 364np in 34g (10.7) at Syracuse 2016-17
Bill Drew 30np in 24g (1.25) at Notre Dame 1973-75; 160np in 38g (4.2) at Syracuse 1976-78
Chris Lewis 148np in 24g (6.2) at Wisconsin-Milwaukee 1979-80; 102np in 30g (3.4) at Syracuse 1981-83
Mark Cubit 197np in 49 g (4.0) at Vermont 1974-76; 80np in 53g (1.5) at Syracuse 1977-79
Matt Tomazewski 140np in 37g (3.8) in 2009-12; 23np in 19g (1.2) at Syracuse 2007-09
Ethan Cole 249np in 52g (4.8) at New Hampshire 1997-99; 14np in 26g (0.5) at Syracuse 1999-2002
Braedon Bayer 266np in 34g (7.8) at Grinnell in 2014-16; 3np in 9g (0.3) at Syracuse in 2017-18
Geno Thorpe 240np in 66g (3.6) at Penn State in 2013-15; 288np in 26g (11.1) at South Florida in 2016-17; 3np in 6g (-0.5) at Syracuse in 2017-18
Christian White 68np in 44g (1.5) at Monmouth 2012-14; 2np in 4g (0.5) at Syracuse 2014-16
Cater Sanderson 144np in 73g (2.0) at Lipscomb 2011-12; 1np in 4g (0.25) at Syracuse 2014-15
Ryan Kahak 370np* in 50g (6.6) at Dominican College 2003-05; -2np in 4g (-0.5) at Syracuse 2005-08
Mike Rosenblum -4np in 5g (-0.8) at Colgate 1997-98; -2np in 13g (-0.1) at Syracuse 1998-2001
Joey Kohm played 4 games at R.I.T. in 1983-84: no stats available. -5NP in 17g (-0.3) at Syracuse 1984-87

TRANSFERS OUT
Keith Hughes 64np in 39g (1.6) at Syracuse 1986-88; 1,093np* in 64g (17.1) at Rutgers 1989-91
Bobby Lazor 80np in 43g (1.9) at Syracuse 1994-95; 1,061np in 62 (17.1) at Arizona State 1997-1999
Sam Spann -3np in 8g (-0.4) at Syracuse 1997-98; 928np in 79g at Fairfield (11.7) at Fairfield 1999-2002
B.J. Johnson 86np in 35g (2.5) at Syracuse 2013-15; 876np in 56g (15.6) at LaSalle 2016-18
Richard Manning 123np in 77g (1.6) at Syracuse 1988-90; 849np in 54g (15.7) at Washington 1991-93
Glenn Sekunda 139np in 48g (2.9) at Syracuse 1991-93; 798np* in 60g (13.3) at Penn State 1994-96
Ramel Lloyd 52np in 25g (2.1) at Syracuse 1996-97; 762np in 88g (8.7) at Long Beach State 1998-2001
Earl Duncan 191np in 35g (5.5) at Syracuse 1987-88; 750np* in 57g (13.2) at Rutgers 1989-91
Tony Bland 274np in 64g (4.3) at Syracuse 1998-2000; 746mp in 63g (11.8) at San Diego State 2001-03
Mike Sheehey 37np in 27g (1.4) at Syracuse 1979-81; 630np in 59g (10.7) at St. Bonaventure 1982-84
Dashonte Riley 26np in 17g at Syracuse 2009-11; 570np in 90g (6.3) at Eastern Michigan 2011-14
Xzavier Gaines -2np in 11g (0.2) at Syracuse 2002-05; 532np+ in 31g (17.2) at NW Missouri 2005-06
(NW Missouri just saw the bright side of things: http://orangehoops.org/XGaines.htm_
LeSean Howard 75np in 46g (1.6) at Syracuse 1996-98; 482np in 53g (9.1) at Howard 1999-2001
James Thues 342np in 60g (5.7) 437np in 60g; 437np in 60g (7.3) at Detroit Mercy 2003-05
Mark Konecny -2np in 2g ((-1.0) at Syracuse 2001-02; JC then 416np* in 25g (16.6) at Lambuth 2004-06
(Lambuth also only recorded positive stats: Mark Konecny )
Anthony Harris 20np in 18g (1.1) at Syracuse 1991-93; 400np in 54g (7.4) at Hawaii in 1994-96
Ron Patterson 66np in 39g (1.7) at Syracuse 2013-14; 387np in 62g (6.4) at Indiana/Purdue at Indianapolis 2016-18
Winfred Walton 0np on 0 g (0.0) at Syracuse 1996-97; 372np in 27g (13.8) at Fresno State 1997-98
Matt Roe 548np in 86g (6.4) at Syracuse 1986-89; 358np in 28g (12.8) at Maryland 1990-91
George Papadakos 52np in 42g (1.2) at Syracuse 1983-85; 324np in 52g (6.6) at Michigan State 1986-88
Chuckie Gelatt 28np in 22g (1.3) at Syracuse 1993-94; JC then 289np in 25g ((11.6) at DePaul 1995-97
Eric Williams 145np in 35g (4.1) at Syracuse 1997-98; 279np in 58g (4.8) at Massachusetts 1997-98
Matthew Moyer 137np in 35g (3.9) at Syracuse 2016-18; 106np in 56g (1.9) at Vanderbilt 2018-20; 149np in 12g (12.4) at George Washington in 2020-21 (total: 255np)
Christian White 2np in 4g (0.5) at Syracuse 2014-16; 212np in 26g (8.2) at Pace 2016-17
John Karpis 22np in 18g (1.2) at Syracuse 1982-84; 208NP in 12g (17.3) at Toronto 1985-87
DeShaun Williams 704np in 97g (7.3) at Syracuse 1999-2002; 188np in 21g (9.0) at Iona 2003-04
Kaleb Joseph 156np in 50g (3.1) at Syracuse 2014-16; 186np in 50g (3.7) at Creighton 2017-19
Louie McCroskey 310np in 96g (3.2) at Syracuse 2003-06; 155np in 19g (8.2) at Marist 2007-08
Michael Brown 242np in 30g (8.1) at Syracuse 1984-86; 151np in 27g (5.6) at Clemson 1986-87
Ed Gooding 8np in 3g (2.7) at Syracuse (1978-79; 129np in 53g (2.4) at Iona 1979-82
Cliff Warwell 34np in 20g (1.7) at Syracuse 1976-77; 124np in 6g (20.7) at Ithaca 1979-80
David Patrick 11np in 28g (0.4) at Syracuse 1995-96; 103np in 60g (1.7) at SW Louisiana, (then La.-Lafayette, now just ‘Louisiana’) 1997-2000
Taurean Thompson 253np in 34 g (7.4) at Syracuse 2016-17; 72np in 28g (2.6) at Seton Hall 2018-20; 0np in 2g (0.0) at Detroit Mercy in 2020-21
Greg Davis -3np in 19g (-0.2) at Syracuse 2000-02; 66np in 57g (1.2) at North Carolina A&T 2003-05
Jalen Carey 55np in 27g (2.0) at Syracuse 2018-20; 52np in 23g (2.3) at Rhode Island 2020-21
Brendan Paul 0np in 16g (0.0) at Syracuse 2018-20; 15np in 12g (1.25) at Fairmount State 2020-21.
Brycen Goodine 25np in 23g (1.1) at Syracuse 2019-20; 14np in 16g (0.9) at Providence 20-21
Josh Wright 368np in 89g (4.1) 2004-08 at Syracuse; Orangehoops says that he averaged 17ppg for the University of Ottawa over 12g in 2008-09. I only able to find stats from 2 games in which he had 11np
Rodney Walker 121np in 44g (2.75) at Syracuse 1985-87; 10np in 21g (0.5) at Maryland 1988-90
Chinoso Obokoh 24np in 24g (1.0) at Syracuse 2013-16; 0np in 5g (0.0) at St. Bonaventure 2016-17
Reggie Powell 10np in 27g (0.4) at Syracuse 1975-77; Went to DIII Pratt Institute – stats unavailable
Mike Jones 8np in 11g (0.7) at Syracuse 2006-07; transferred to South Carolina but was academically ineligible and went to junior college.
Howard Washington 67np in 41g (1.6) at Syracuse 2017-20; Transferred to South Alabama but opted out due to Covid.
Sean Williams 3np in 16g (0.2) at Syracuse 2007-09; transferred to Cal State Fullerton but was academically ineligible.
Dayshawn Wright 16np in 10g (1.6) at Syracuse 2004-05; enrolled at Mountain State but not academically eligible.
Albert Nassar 6np in 11g (0.5) at Syracuse; -5np in 10g (-0.5) at Tampa 2015-16
Brad Small 4NP in 3g (1.3) at Syracuse 1990-91; -5NP in 6g (-0.8) at St. John’s 1993-94
Braedon Bayer 3np in 9 g (0.3) at Syracuse 2017-18; -11np in 20g (-0.6) at Siena 2018-19.

 

[SoBristol]

Wow, just amazing the work you do for this site. Some of these names go back nearly to the beginning of written word processing history.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

(This is the third of my four Orangehoops projects - I'll post the final one tomorrow.)

I decided to use Orangehoops: Syracuse Orange Basketball Season Records to rank SU transfers (to and from) in the Boeheim Era using my “Net Point” system. For each, I’ll list their net points here, the number of games they played, (I don’t have minutes for all seasons), and the average, (p, (p game since I don’t have minutes prior to 1980-81) and the same for what they did for other schools. Did the guys who transferred here get better under Boeheim’s coaching? Did the guys who left find the grass greener? (I also list who they were playing behind here.) I ranked the first group by their total NP here and the second by their total NP at other schools. I’m limiting the list to 4 year colleges.

The “Net Points” formula: Points + Rebounds +Assists + Steals + Blocks – Missed field goals – Missed free throws – turnovers – fouls = “Net Points” Where elements of the formula are missing, I’ve put a ‘*’ next to the np.

TRANSFERS IN
Ryan Blackwell 110np in 30g (3.7) at Illinois 1995-96; 1,283np in 100g (12.8) at Syracuse 1997-2000
Leo Rautins 229np in 27g (8.5) at Minnesota 1978-79; 1,102np in 85g (13.0) at Syracuse 1980-83
Michael Gbinije 20np in 19g (1.1) at Duke 2011-12; 976np in 102g (9.6) at Syracuse 2013-16
Elijah Hughes 106np in 25g (4.2) at East Carolina 2016-17; 869np in 66g (13.2) at Syracuse 2018-20
Wes Johnson 595np in 58g (10.3) at Iowa State 2006-08; 685np in 35g (19.6) at Syracuse 2009-10
Paschal Chukwu 95np in 34g (2.8) at Providence 2014-15; 616np in 77g (8.0) at Syracuse 2015-19
LeRon Ellis 519np in 60g (8.7) at Kentucky 1987-89; 612np in 64g (9.6) at Syracuse 1989-1991
Andrew White 55np in 43g (1.2) at Kansas 2012-14; 455np in 34g (13.4) at Nebraska 2014-16; 488np in 34g (14.4) at Syracuse 2016-17
Alan Griffin 319np in 58g (5.5) at Illinois 2018-20; 372np in 28g (13.3) at Syracuse 2020-21
John Gillon 190np in 27g (7.0) at Arkansas-Little Rock 2012-13; 557np in 68g (8.2) at Colorado State 2013-16; 364np in 34g (10.7) at Syracuse 2016-17
Bill Drew 30np in 24g (1.25) at Notre Dame 1973-75; 160np in 38g (4.2) at Syracuse 1976-78
Chris Lewis 148np in 24g (6.2) at Wisconsin-Milwaukee 1979-80; 102np in 30g (3.4) at Syracuse 1981-83
Mark Cubit 197np in 49 g (4.0) at Vermont 1974-76; 80np in 53g (1.5) at Syracuse 1977-79
Matt Tomazewski 140np in 37g (3.8) in 2009-12; 23np in 19g (1.2) at Syracuse 2007-09
Ethan Cole 249np in 52g (4.8) at New Hampshire 1997-99; 14np in 26g (0.5) at Syracuse 1999-2002
Braedon Bayer 266np in 34g (7.8) at Grinnell in 2014-16; 3np in 9g (0.3) at Syracuse in 2017-18
Geno Thorpe 240np in 66g (3.6) at Penn State in 2013-15; 288np in 26g (11.1) at South Florida in 2016-17; 3np in 6g (-0.5) at Syracuse in 2017-18
Christian White 68np in 44g (1.5) at Monmouth 2012-14; 2np in 4g (0.5) at Syracuse 2014-16
Cater Sanderson 144np in 73g (2.0) at Lipscomb 2011-12; 1np in 4g (0.25) at Syracuse 2014-15
Ryan Kahak 370np* in 50g (6.6) at Dominican College 2003-05; -2np in 4g (-0.5) at Syracuse 2005-08
Mike Rosenblum -4np in 5g (-0.8) at Colgate 1997-98; -2np in 13g (-0.1) at Syracuse 1998-2001
Joey Kohm played 4 games at R.I.T. in 1983-84: no stats available. -5NP in 17g (-0.3) at Syracuse 1984-87

TRANSFERS OUT
Keith Hughes 64np in 39g (1.6) at Syracuse 1986-88; 1,093np* in 64g (17.1) at Rutgers 1989-91
Bobby Lazor 80np in 43g (1.9) at Syracuse 1994-95; 1,061np in 62 (17.1) at Arizona State 1997-1999
Sam Spann -3np in 8g (-0.4) at Syracuse 1997-98; 928np in 79g at Fairfield (11.7) at Fairfield 1999-2002
B.J. Johnson 86np in 35g (2.5) at Syracuse 2013-15; 876np in 56g (15.6) at LaSalle 2016-18
Richard Manning 123np in 77g (1.6) at Syracuse 1988-90; 849np in 54g (15.7) at Washington 1991-93
Glenn Sekunda 139np in 48g (2.9) at Syracuse 1991-93; 798np* in 60g (13.3) at Penn State 1994-96
Ramel Lloyd 52np in 25g (2.1) at Syracuse 1996-97; 762np in 88g (8.7) at Long Beach State 1998-2001
Earl Duncan 191np in 35g (5.5) at Syracuse 1987-88; 750np* in 57g (13.2) at Rutgers 1989-91
Tony Bland 274np in 64g (4.3) at Syracuse 1998-2000; 746mp in 63g (11.8) at San Diego State 2001-03
Mike Sheehey 37np in 27g (1.4) at Syracuse 1979-81; 630np in 59g (10.7) at St. Bonaventure 1982-84
Dashonte Riley 26np in 17g at Syracuse 2009-11; 570np in 90g (6.3) at Eastern Michigan 2011-14
Xzavier Gaines -2np in 11g (0.2) at Syracuse 2002-05; 532np+ in 31g (17.2) at NW Missouri 2005-06
(NW Missouri just saw the bright side of things: http://orangehoops.org/XGaines.htm_
LeSean Howard 75np in 46g (1.6) at Syracuse 1996-98; 482np in 53g (9.1) at Howard 1999-2001
James Thues 342np in 60g (5.7) 437np in 60g; 437np in 60g (7.3) at Detroit Mercy 2003-05
Mark Konecny -2np in 2g ((-1.0) at Syracuse 2001-02; JC then 416np* in 25g (16.6) at Lambuth 2004-06
(Lambuth also only recorded positive stats: Mark Konecny )
Anthony Harris 20np in 18g (1.1) at Syracuse 1991-93; 400np in 54g (7.4) at Hawaii in 1994-96
Ron Patterson 66np in 39g (1.7) at Syracuse 2013-14; 387np in 62g (6.4) at Indiana/Purdue at Indianapolis 2016-18
Winfred Walton 0np on 0 g (0.0) at Syracuse 1996-97; 372np in 27g (13.8) at Fresno State 1997-98
Matt Roe 548np in 86g (6.4) at Syracuse 1986-89; 358np in 28g (12.8) at Maryland 1990-91
George Papadakos 52np in 42g (1.2) at Syracuse 1983-85; 324np in 52g (6.6) at Michigan State 1986-88
Chuckie Gelatt 28np in 22g (1.3) at Syracuse 1993-94; JC then 289np in 25g ((11.6) at DePaul 1995-97
Eric Williams 145np in 35g (4.1) at Syracuse 1997-98; 279np in 58g (4.8) at Massachusetts 1997-98
Matthew Moyer 137np in 35g (3.9) at Syracuse 2016-18; 106np in 56g (1.9) at Vanderbilt 2018-20; 149np in 12g (12.4) at George Washington in 2020-21 (total: 255np)
Christian White 2np in 4g (0.5) at Syracuse 2014-16; 212np in 26g (8.2) at Pace 2016-17
John Karpis 22np in 18g (1.2) at Syracuse 1982-84; 208NP in 12g (17.3) at Toronto 1985-87
DeShaun Williams 704np in 97g (7.3) at Syracuse 1999-2002; 188np in 21g (9.0) at Iona 2003-04
Kaleb Joseph 156np in 50g (3.1) at Syracuse 2014-16; 186np in 50g (3.7) at Creighton 2017-19
Louie McCroskey 310np in 96g (3.2) at Syracuse 2003-06; 155np in 19g (8.2) at Marist 2007-08
Michael Brown 242np in 30g (8.1) at Syracuse 1984-86; 151np in 27g (5.6) at Clemson 1986-87
Ed Gooding 8np in 3g (2.7) at Syracuse (1978-79; 129np in 53g (2.4) at Iona 1979-82
Cliff Warwell 34np in 20g (1.7) at Syracuse 1976-77; 124np in 6g (20.7) at Ithaca 1979-80
David Patrick 11np in 28g (0.4) at Syracuse 1995-96; 103np in 60g (1.7) at SW Louisiana, (then La.-Lafayette, now just ‘Louisiana’) 1997-2000
Taurean Thompson 253np in 34 g (7.4) at Syracuse 2016-17; 72np in 28g (2.6) at Seton Hall 2018-20; 0np in 2g (0.0) at Detroit Mercy in 2020-21
Greg Davis -3np in 19g (-0.2) at Syracuse 2000-02; 66np in 57g (1.2) at North Carolina A&T 2003-05
Jalen Carey 55np in 27g (2.0) at Syracuse 2018-20; 52np in 23g (2.3) at Rhode Island 2020-21
Brendan Paul 0np in 16g (0.0) at Syracuse 2018-20; 15np in 12g (1.25) at Fairmount State 2020-21.
Brycen Goodine 25np in 23g (1.1) at Syracuse 2019-20; 14np in 16g (0.9) at Providence 20-21
Josh Wright 368np in 89g (4.1) 2004-08 at Syracuse; Orangehoops says that he averaged 17ppg for the University of Ottawa over 12g in 2008-09. I only able to find stats from 2 games in which he had 11np
Rodney Walker 121np in 44g (2.75) at Syracuse 1985-87; 10np in 21g (0.5) at Maryland 1988-90
Chinoso Obokoh 24np in 24g (1.0) at Syracuse 2013-16; 0np in 5g (0.0) at St. Bonaventure 2016-17
Reggie Powell 10np in 27g (0.4) at Syracuse 1975-77; Went to DIII Pratt Institute – stats unavailable
Mike Jones 8np in 11g (0.7) at Syracuse 2006-07; transferred to South Carolina but was academically ineligible and went to junior college.
Howard Washington 67np in 41g (1.6) at Syracuse 2017-20; Transferred to South Alabama but opted out due to Covid.
Sean Williams 3np in 16g (0.2) at Syracuse 2007-09; transferred to Cal State Fullerton but was academically ineligible.
Dayshawn Wright 16np in 10g (1.6) at Syracuse 2004-05; enrolled at Mountain State but not academically eligible.
Albert Nassar 6np in 11g (0.5) at Syracuse; -5np in 10g (-0.5) at Tampa 2015-16
Brad Small 4NP in 3g (1.3) at Syracuse 1990-91; -5NP in 6g (-0.8) at St. John’s 1993-94
Braedon Bayer 3np in 9 g (0.3) at Syracuse 2017-18; -11np in 20g (-0.6) at Siena 2018-19.

Great stuff. You look at the guys who transferred out. Obviously for different reasons but a lot more out than in. But overall, we had some really productive transfers in. Hopefully Swider and JB3 end up somewhere with the top one year players.