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Message: [QUOTE="care taker, post: 3053045, member: 5810"] im all about, and all for form but they only do this on testing days. At 50 I rarely bench I use dumbells as it builds stabilizing muscles even more and I do cable bench is even better .Than when I do bench im stronger . Im actually hitting 405 on bench , months ago I was in therapy for multiple injuries and never thought I could go heavy again but oddly the heavier I went the more the pain was going away now im pain free and racking almost every machine in the place . Im also able to arm wrestle again after not being able to pick up a pillow from severe tendonitis . So for me heavy weights cured me . [/QUOTE]