SWC comment in the Big Game Thread - Schollie reduction

[orangenauburn]

I totally agree and think this deserves its own thread.

85 is too many - if the NCAA reduced it to 72 (18 a class) that would save a school like SU $650k / year. Over a four year cycle that is $2.6m.

This improves (in theory) the quality of the athlete pool and (in theory) play. Minimzes depth concerns and increases the values on organization and player evaluation by coaches (leveling the field).

Thoughts?

 

[longtimefan]

I totally agree and think this deserves its own thread.

85 is too many - if the NCAA reduced it to 72 (18 a class) that would save a school like SU $650k / year. Over a four year cycle that is $2.6m.

This improves (in theory) the quality of the athlete pool and (in theory) play. Minimzes depth concerns and increases the values on organization and player evaluation by coaches (leveling the field).

Thoughts?

High profile coaches--Urban Meyer this past week--are lobbying for more scholarships, if the championship is expanded to 8 teams.

 

[orangenauburn]

High profile coaches--Urban Meyer this past week--are lobbying for more scholarships, if the championship is expanded to 8 teams.

I am sure he is ... dilutes the competitive field for him and means the top teams can 'steal' quality recruits from their competition and keep them on the bench. (look what happened to SU when PSU got schollies back)

Limiting scholarships spreads the talent pool out and increases the competition for the big guys ... so of course they want to increase the limit.

 

[OrangeAl]

So, if the NCAA decides to dock us a few scholarships we'll thank them for saving us money?

 

[jekelish]

Mike and Mike were going on and on all week about the need to EXPAND the number of scholarships because there's the thought that the playoff will be expanded to 8 teams sooner than later, and Greenberg couldn't fathom college football players having to play 15 or 16 games in a season.

He's of course ignoring the fact that every...other...level of college football already plays that many games and only looking at D1. FCS, D2, D3, NAIA...all of them. Yet it's insane to him that college kids could be asked to possibly play more games!

Way to ignore the big picture, Greeny!

 

[leftytg]

it is somewhat disingenuous to use the full sticker price of tuition plus room and board in calculating what Syracuse University would save in a scholarship reduction. The actual marginal cost to the University of another 16 football players is not nearly 600k.

Such a proposal also hurts the kids. That is a significant reduction in scholarships across all of FBS, meaning about a thousand fewer high school seniors per class get scholarships.

The only reason to want a scholarship reduction is that it benefits private schools like Syracuse, in that it gives Syracuse access to recruits who otherwise would have gone to more prestigious programs.

 

[orangenauburn]

it is somewhat disingenuous to use the full sticker price of tuition plus room and board in calculating what Syracuse University would save in a scholarship reduction. The actual marginal cost to the University of another 16 football players is not nearly 600k.

Such a proposal also hurts the kids. That is a significant reduction in scholarships across all of FBS, meaning about a thousand fewer high school seniors per class get scholarships.

The only reason to want a scholarship reduction is that it benefits private schools like Syracuse, in that it gives Syracuse access to recruits who otherwise would have gone to more prestigious programs.

NFL is fine with 55 ... this system benefits the BIG boys
kids are fine ... forces a focus on ACADEMICS
my friend played at Hobart ... almost all covered with academic schollies ... God Forbid we make our athletes be scholars as well

 

[Full_Rebar]

it is somewhat disingenuous to use the full sticker price of tuition plus room and board in calculating what Syracuse University would save in a scholarship reduction. The actual marginal cost to the University of another 16 football players is not nearly 600k.

Such a proposal also hurts the kids. That is a significant reduction in scholarships across all of FBS, meaning about a thousand fewer high school seniors per class get scholarships.

The only reason to want a scholarship reduction is that it benefits private schools like Syracuse, in that it gives Syracuse access to recruits who otherwise would have gone to more prestigious programs.

Not if you also allow partial scholarships like nearly every other sport does.

 

[Cheriehoop]

it is somewhat disingenuous to use the full sticker price of tuition plus room and board in calculating what Syracuse University would save in a scholarship reduction. The actual marginal cost to the University of another 16 football players is not nearly 600k.

Such a proposal also hurts the kids. That is a significant reduction in scholarships across all of FBS, meaning about a thousand fewer high school seniors per class get scholarships.

The only reason to want a scholarship reduction is that it benefits private schools like Syracuse, in that it gives Syracuse access to recruits who otherwise would have gone to more prestigious programs.

Would help the cries and math involving Title IX . Also would probably help other college student athletes whose sports are being totally eliminated because of it.

 

[CuseOnly]

Most ridiculous argument I have ever heard...move on.

I want the last 2 min of my life back after reading this.