Symir will see no crunch time

[Dcuse]

That’s not exactly a scoop I know. It’s a shame because they need the extra ball handling. That was UGLY tonight.

 

[AlaskaSU]

Did his ft's at least come close to falling?

 

[Dcuse]

Did his ft's at least come close to falling?

They, in fact, did not.

 

[Cuseball]

Did his ft's at least come close to falling?

Nope. Awful free throw shooting and no confidence or chance. Cornell strategy was to hack a Torrance. Can’t play him late

 

[hoopsupstate]

Smir doesn’t understand how to play the game. He doesn’t know how to make winning plays. There’s no way he should play over the two freshman next year. If he does, those two freshman can’t be very good.

 

[OrangeDW]

Sometimes it’s just a bad game.

 

[SUFan44]

Sometimes it’s just a bad game.

If 2.5 years in college is a “bad game”, then yeah.

 

[OrangeDW]

If 2.5 years in college is a “bad game”, then yeah.

He’s done some good things here this year. 2.8 assists per game vs 0.9 turnovers.

Per 40 minutes, he’s averaging 9.7 assists. He’s a good passer, and one of our best ball handlers. It is what it is.

 

[SUFan44]

He’s done some good things here this year. 2.8 assists per game vs 0.9 turnovers.

Per 40 minutes, he’s averaging 9.7 assists. He’s a good passer, and one of our best ball handlers. It is what it is.

I would like to see how many of those passes were a direct result of penetration and dish, and how many were a simple ball rotation to an open 3 point shooter.

They aren’t the same thing, and have much different value to a team.

 

[br801]

Sometimes it’s just a bad game.

Nah, that can't be. We saw his future tonight, and it's written in stone.

 

[Dcuse]

He’s done some good things here this year. 2.8 assists per game vs 0.9 turnovers.

Per 40 minutes, he’s averaging 9.7 assists. He’s a good passer, and one of our best ball handlers. It is what it is.

You are right. It was not my intention to start a trash Symir thread. He does good things but he just cannot get the ball in the hoop. I am rooting for him to at least concur the fear of shooting a free throw.

 

[OrangeDW]

I would like to see how many of those passes were a direct result of penetration and dish, and how many were a simple ball rotation to an open 3 point shooter.

They aren’t the same thing, and have much different value to a team.

That’s like 90% of the assists in basketball today. Nobody gives it up on the break or even runs a break, nobody throws alley oops, etc. Nobody feeds the post. Sorry if they don’t pass the drive and dish highlight reel degree of difficulty test.

There’s a ton of value in quickly and accurately passing the ball when you should and putting it on a shooters’ hands when and where he needs it. Frankly, not enough of our recent guards have been any good at that.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

You are right. It was not my intention to start a trash Symir thread. He does good things but he just cannot get the ball in the hoop. I am rooting for him to at least concur the fear of shooting a free throw.

Conquer

 

[br801]

That’s like 90% of the assists in basketball today. Nobody gives it up on the break or even runs a break, nobody throws alley oops, etc. Nobody feeds the post. Sorry if they don’t pass the drive and dish highlight reel degree of difficulty test.

There’s a ton of value in quickly and accurately passing the ball when you should and putting it on a shooters’ hands when and where he needs it. Frankly, not enough of our recent guards have been any good at that.

And by the way, Joe sucks again and will never have another good game. JB will try to close out games with Buddy as the primary ball handler.

 

[Dcuse]

Conquer

I concur

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I would like to see how many of those passes were a direct result of penetration and dish, and how many were a simple ball rotation to an open 3 point shooter.

They aren’t the same thing, and have much different value to a team.

At the very least his first two assists were an alley oop to Benny and a bomb ahead to Jimmy.

Symir looks for dudes. I'm not suspicious of his assists. He looks to get guys the ball where they can score.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Smir doesn’t understand how to play the game. He doesn’t know how to make winning plays. There’s no way he should play over the two freshman next year. If he does, those two freshman can’t be very good.

Every good as Benny

 

[SUFan44]

At the very least his first two assists were an alley oop to Benny and a bomb ahead to Jimmy.

Symir looks for dudes. I'm not suspicious of his assists. He looks to get guys the ball where they can score.

He does. But he is so very limited in areas needed to be a good player at the ACC level. Very frustrating to see SU guards this limited.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

He does. But he is so very limited in areas needed to be a good player at the ACC level. Very frustrating to see SU guards this limited.

It would be nice if he could present any kind of scoring threat.

 

[pearl31]

Horrid point guard play for the vast majority of the game tonight, both Symir and JG

 

[CousCuse]

Cornell is not going to get away with that type of defense in the Ivy league night after night. It was old school Hoya ball where you basically foul all game long on every play and force the refs to blow the whistle, which they choose not to against Syracuse.

 

[Fat tire 13]

It's tough to find a good solution. If the coach kept JG in the game after stinking it up so much, everyone would have complained. And there is no guard depth beyond Symir.

I think people are being a little too hard on Symir here. He's not good, but has some qualities that are needed (dribbling/passing). I agree with the points that OrangeDW and Otto made. We will need him to play because Buddy/JG can't play 40 mpg once we start playing 2-3 games per week.

The FT shooting may be the most frustrating. When the other team purposely fouls your PG, that isn't a good sign. PG's are expected to shoot 80% from the line. And FT shooting may be the main answer why JG will play at crunch time. The ability to knock them down from the line offsets the sloppy turnovers.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

You are right. It was not my intention to start a trash Symir thread. He does good things but he just cannot get the ball in the hoop. I am rooting for him to at least concur the fear of shooting a free throw.

I’m not worried about that .. because thats not his role. I’m more worried how off inbound passes he dribbles the ball right into the corner , creating two phantom defenders … whenever pressed

 

[Trueblue25]

He’ll see crunch time, as we’ll need him
to.

He kept us in the game during the ridiculous short spurt JB granted him vs Indiana. I value that more than a whatever game against Cornell. He provides much needed physicality and ball handling. It almost makes up for the fact that our forwards do not move around without the ball.

Same with Frank.

 

[Newhouser]

He’ll see crunch time, as we’ll need him
to.

He kept us in the game during the ridiculous short spurt JB granted him vs Indiana. I value that more than a whatever game against Cornell. He provides much needed physicality and ball handling. It almost makes up for the fact that our forwards do not move around without the ball.

Same with Frank.

The lack of movement without the ball is infuriating and comedic all at the same time.