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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4107838, member: 237"] It's gonna be up to Symir. He will no doubt be better than a Howard Washington would as a 4th guard but even with their limitations I see a lot that Copeland and Taylor bring playing with Joe that push Symir clear 4g status. Also if you really rewatch the games- Cole makes this lineup more of a 3G lineup than a traditional GGFFC. Benny is more of a forward ( with a long ways to go) than Cole. Symir is around to spell Joe and be an asset when playing well. He also is a defensive sub. His quickness and ability as a defender along with natural PG instincts is what makes him valuable. When Buddy or Joe, Cole, Jimmy and Jesse are doing their thing His game is all we need it to be. Next year he has two guys coming in with equal or better athleticism and more diverse games. He will have to be elite at something to be more than the 4th G. [/QUOTE]