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[QUOTE="Niastri, post: 5328131, member: 722"]
I first looked it up during one of these discussions a decade or so ago. It hadn't changed much in that time... I can't speak to before then directly. But it would make sense. New York State has generally been stagnant in population for decades, while other areas of the country are huge destinations.

As for the branding, I'm going they get back to that.  Wild hack made an aggressive, outside the box hiring to the football head coach position, and it’s been a home run. I’m hoping he can follow that up by working with Fran Brown to work on the marketing program the school in the program regionally and nationally.

Gross had little too back up his bravado, but marketing seemed to be his thing, and his "New York's College Team" was going to be a slow going, but potentially paradigm shifting idea.

What Gross really needed was a season like the one we just had.  Marketing with no product can still sometimes work, but not when you're trying to influence lifelong loyalty patterns to something like college football.

Think about tiny regional college basketball team Duke.  They were ok before, certainly a regional brand... But then suddenly they win back to back championships while Dookie V s h a t himself touting them in every tv broadcast about how great they are... Now every slimy disgusting rock has a Duke fan hiding under it.
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