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Message: [QUOTE="Ottoman, post: 5270032, member: 8915"] You make great points. But yet schools like Creighton, Pitt, Dayton, Wake Forest, Iowa State, Utah State seem to be getting more productive players than the Cuse (a historically great program by any measure). Maybe I'm ill-informed, but I don't see how location or NIL is keeping us from competing with the programs listed above. NBA readiness has slipped a lot in recent years, but we have still produced many great NBA players over the years. My bigger concern is that we are getting the players we want and the results speak for themselves. I got the feeling the staff was very confident coming into the season. Then came the shock. [/QUOTE]