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Message: [QUOTE="Townie72, post: 387166, member: 780"] Let me go slow. Losing to a historical doormat like Rutgers really gets to those SU fans that remember when they were an absolute doormat (for decades). The attention that SU fans pay to Rutgers is really based with in the dissatisfaction they feel with the SU program using a traditional have-not as the basis. If Rutgers loses UConn or WVU or whoever, SU fans barely notice. The Paul Pasqualoni loss to Rutgers (1-10) in 1999 didn't make the SU fan base restless because Rutgers was a rival. It upset people because Rutgers was the bottom of the NCAA football barrel. Suppose Alabama were to start losing games to Vanderbilt. Would that elevate Vanderbilt to a rivalry status with Alabama? I doubt that. Rutgers fans have tried to stoke or create a rivalry with SU because they have never had a real rival and want to get one because as a new fan base they think they should have one. [/QUOTE]