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Message: [QUOTE="EnviroSciGuy, post: 5316123, member: 2818"] I was at one of them that already did. For Saint Rose, they took on debt in the 2000s when they were booming to buy real estate and put a sparkly new dorm on Madison Ave... then the 2008 collapse happened. They never recovered. They were treading water after some severe staff and faculty cuts in 2015, and then covid made things all but untenable. They had enough reserves to hold out for a few years, but were unable to identify a strategy to get their enrollment back up. At the time (and to this day) I believed that the only solution was to GROW their way out of it, but they went in the other direction with cuts to some of their more attractive programs, rather than some of the actual deadweight, due to internal politics (just like in 2015). The demographic cliff is a thing now as well. Some familiar names will probably be meeting the same fate as Saint Rose in the next few years. [/QUOTE]