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My coworker's son, who I've known for years and is a really great kid, just gave a 2016 verbal commitment to Georgetown. It was a no brainer IMO, he had to make the choice, as it was by far the best combo of academics and hoops of his 21 offers (other top choices were Xavier, Georgia Tech, Harvard, SMU, URI...)

But damn...HoyaSaxa? Gonna be hard in our office, especially with the 4 game series starting up again...
 
My coworker's son, who I've known for years and is a really great kid, just gave a 2016 verbal commitment to Georgetown. It was a no brainer IMO, he had to make the choice, as it was by far the best combo of academics and hoops of his 21 offers (other top choices were .)

But damn...HoyaSaxa? Gonna be hard in our office, especially with the 4 game series starting up again...

The most important thing to take away from this is that gtown is competing with Xavier, Georgia Tech, Harvard, SMU, URI.. for recruits. (this will become the norm in the BE)

I feel for you, just rout for the kid to do well while gtown loses every game.
 
FreakTalksAboutSU said:
My coworker's son, who I've known for years and is a really great kid, just gave a 2016 verbal commitment to Georgetown. It was a no brainer IMO, he had to make the choice, as it was by far the best combo of academics and hoops of his 21 offers (other top choices were Xavier, Georgia Tech, Harvard, SMU, URI...) But damn...HoyaSaxa? Gonna be hard in our office, especially with the 4 game series starting up again...

Mosely?
 
My coworker's son, who I've known for years and is a really great kid, just gave a 2016 verbal commitment to Georgetown. It was a no brainer IMO, he had to make the choice, as it was by far the best combo of academics and hoops of his 21 offers (other top choices were Xavier, Georgia Tech, Harvard, SMU, URI...)

But damn...HoyaSaxa? Gonna be hard in our office, especially with the 4 game series starting up again...
I think you have the right to hope the player has a great career, but team losses every game for the next 4 years :)
 
Without financial aid, Harvard could cost him $240,000 for four years, and Georgetown will be free. Seems like a good move.
I believe Harvard is one of the Ivys proclaiming the relatively small out of pocket costs to attend. US News (I believe) cited it as the #1 educational buy. Tell his folks to really look at the numbers.
 
this is a difficult situation to properly assess the political ramifications of, from a friendship and work relationship standpoint. you can't openly root against the kid, however rooting for the kid is akin to openly rooting for georgetown, which you also can't do. by openly rooting for Syracuse, which you will do, you will also be by extension openly rooting against georgetown, and by extension rooting against your coworkers kid, who is also your friend. the only thing here that is definitively clear is that you can't openly root for your coworkers kid, who is also your friend, because it would be akin to rooting for georgetown which hath been decreed as equivalent to rooting for the devil. I suggest that you and your coworker take a mutual leave of absence from open support of college basketball in general, and that you rekindle the friendship subsequent to the kids participation with georgetown basketball.
 
My coworker's son, who I've known for years and is a really great kid, just gave a 2016 verbal commitment to Georgetown. It was a no brainer IMO, he had to make the choice, as it was by far the best combo of academics and hoops of his 21 offers (other top choices were Xavier, Georgia Tech, Harvard, SMU, URI...)

But damn...HoyaSaxa? Gonna be hard in our office, especially with the 4 game series starting up again...
I'm not saying you should fire his dad, but I'm also not not saying you should fire his dad.
 
Without financial aid, Harvard could cost him $240,000 for four years, and Georgetown will be free. Seems like a good move.
If he's a really, really good player, that might be true. But remember, lax teams are allowed 12.6 scholarships for the entire team. The money is usually split between many players. This means that the average award covers less than 30% of a typical athlete's annual college costs. I would bet it is rare to spend a full scholy on one player.

But as cto rightly says, there are ways around this. :)
 
If Harvard wants him, they would figure out some combo of "merit" and "need" assistance. Trust me, all the Ivies do it. Princeton did it for my cousin's son (an ice hockey player)
Very common practice for D-1 hockey.
 
this is a difficult situation to properly assess the political ramifications of, from a friendship and work relationship standpoint. you can't openly root against the kid, however rooting for the kid is akin to openly rooting for georgetown, which you also can't do. by openly rooting for Syracuse, which you will do, you will also be by extension openly rooting against georgetown, and by extension rooting against your coworkers kid, who is also your friend. the only thing here that is definitively clear is that you can't openly root for your coworkers kid, who is also your friend, because it would be akin to rooting for georgetown which hath been decreed as equivalent to rooting for the devil. I suggest that you and your coworker take a mutual leave of absence from open support of college basketball in general, and that you rekindle the friendship subsequent to the kids participation with georgetown basketball.
----------Or, you have to decide if a real friend would allow their son to go to Georgetown!
 
He can't be that bright... if he turned down Harvard for Georgetown.
Better shot at the nba from georgetown, in my opinion. Unless he's planning to be a congressmen or lawyer, I think he made a solid choice.
 
Better shot at the nba from georgetown, in my opinion. Unless he's planning to be a congressmen or lawyer, I think he made a solid choice.

But people need to be honest with themselves with this regard. I think many kids & their parent/guardians are misguided on where the player really is, and how likely they are to really have a shot at the NBA.

For almost all kids playing D1 basketball, Harvard is far and away a better option for them when it comes to the benefits that they will derive through the course of their lives. It isn't really close.
 
Very common practice for D-1 hockey.
Yep. And other sports. My friend's son wrestled in the Ivies, and was an NCAA Champion. Bright kid, blue collar family, free ride to Harvard. Lots of the wrestling powers offered him full rides, but he was savvy enough to figure the Harvard degree was worth more in the long run.
 
But people need to be honest with themselves with this regard. I think many kids & their parent/guardians are misguided on where the player really is, and how likely they are to really have a shot at the NBA.

For almost all kids playing D1 basketball, Harvard is far and away a better option for them when it comes to the benefits that they will derive through the course of their lives. It isn't really close.

true, just seems like a smart kid so im sure he had reasons
 
Harvard bases your tuition based on your parents/guardians income. Their endowment is so large that if your parents combined income is below 125k you don't pay tuition.

As much as we hate Gtown BB the school is a top 25 university. It will good for your and friend and his son to now always have a respectable rivalry. I have plenty of Yankees fan friends and it made those mid 2000 Red Sox-Yankees series more special to enjoy them with friends on the other side.
 
Harvard bases your tuition based on your parents/guardians income. Their endowment is so large that if your parents combined income is below 125k you don't pay tuition.

As much as we hate Gtown BB the school is a top 25 university. It will good for your and friend and his son to now always have a respectable rivalry. I have plenty of Yankees fan friends and it made those mid 2000 Red Sox-Yankees series more special to enjoy them with friends on the other side.
I have an honest question regarding Georgetown, and most D1 schools. We know what a great school Georgetown is, and if you don't know, just ask a Georgetown grad. Anyway, do the players actually go to the same school? Because, while some of their basketball players seem fairly bright, others (Iverson, Page, Graham...) would have problems getting into ITT Tech. That is probably the case at many schools, but at Georgetown, particularly under John Thompson Jr., it would seem that most of the players wouldn't be able to get into school there or even stay eligible. If Iverson didn't like practice, how do you think he felt about classes?
 
I have an honest question regarding Georgetown, and most D1 schools. We know what a great school Georgetown is, and if you don't know, just ask a Georgetown grad. Anyway, do the players actually go to the same school? Because, while some of their basketball players seem fairly bright, others (Iverson, Page, Graham...) would have problems getting into ITT Tech. That is probably the case at many schools, but at Georgetown, particularly under John Thompson Jr., it would seem that most of the players wouldn't be able to get into school there or even stay eligible. If Iverson didn't like practice, how do you think he felt about classes?
All schools have different acceptance criteria for athletes. All of them --- with one exception. Stanford is the only school that does not have a lower thresh hold for athletes. My cousin's son (the ice hockey player) would not have gotten into Princeton were he not recruited for the ice hockey team. And not only did he get in, but he got a full ride.
 
All schools have different acceptance criteria for athletes. All of them --- with one exception. Stanford is the only school that does not have a lower thresh hold for athletes. My cousin's son (the ice hockey player) would not have gotten into Princeton were he not recruited for the ice hockey team. And not only did he get in, but he got a full ride.
I do understand that, and I know the NCAA has to clear each student, but I just can't imagine the guys I mentioned qualifying to get into any college.
 

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