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Message: [QUOTE="chakka3421, post: 767715, member: 1091"] Not all of us use basketball as a crutch. Personally I can't stand basketball talk on a football forum either. Who the cares especially from a Clemson, FSU, Miami or VT view? We have been away for so long from a true football conference hopefully the Clemson's of the world bring us back into mainstream thinking. That said - our own knuckleheads here argue - we are a bball school or we are a fball school just having a down decade. I personally cannot stand stupid talk like that. We were once known for both and have a huge tradition in both. So I say, why the not be great in both? [/QUOTE]