Teams that win NC title and all-American players on their team

[Alsacs]

I am doing my best SWC75 impersonation. Teams that win a NC typically have a first or second team all-American(duh)

2014- UConn, Shabazz Napier 1st team All-American, Syracuse C.J. Fair 2nd team All-American

2013- Louisville, Russ Smith 3rd team All-American

2012- Kentucky, Anthony Davis 1st team All-American, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 3rd team All-American

2011- UConn, Kemba Walker 1st team All-American

2010- Duke, Jon Scheyer 2nd team All-American Syracuse Wes Johnson 1st All-American

2009- North Carolina, Tyler Hansbrough North Carolina 1st team All-American, Ty Lawson 2nd team
All-American

2008- Kansas, ZERO All-Americans

2007- Florida, Joakim Noah 2nd team All-American, Al Horford 3rd team All-American

2006- Florida, ZERO All-Americans

2005- North Carolina, Sean May 2nd team All-American, Raymond Felton 3rd team All-American, Syracuse
Hakim Warrick 1st team All-American

2004- UConn, Emeka Okafor 1st team All-American, Syracuse Hakim Warrick 3rd team All-American

2003- Syracuse, Carmelo Anthony 2nd team All-American(Josh Howard, David West were the Fs over Melo)

2002- Maryland, Juan Dixon 1st team All-American

2001- Duke, Shane Battier and Jason Williams 1st team All-Americans

2000- Michigan State, Mateen Cleaves and Morris Peterson 2nd team All-Americans

1999- UConn, Richard Hamilton 1st team All-American

1998- Kentucky ZERO All-Americans

1997- Arizona ZERO All-Americans(to be fair though 2 Arizona players made 1st team in 1998 who were
young in 1997)

1996- Kentucky, Tony Delk 1st team All-American, Syracuse John Wallace 2nd team All-American.

Since 1996- the NC has had its best player as a member on the first team All-American team 8 times,
NC has had its best player be a member on the second team All-American team 5 times
NC has had its best player be a member on the third team All-American team 1 time.
NC has had ZERO all-Americans 4 times
Syracuse has had 2 First team All-Americans Wes Johnson and Hakim Warrick, 3 second team All-Americans C.J. Fair, Carmelo Anthony(he should have been first team), John Wallace.

For all the success we have had on the court we haven't had many All-Americans which means our system is good, but our players aren't putting up All-American stats. C.J. Fair, Wes Johnson, Hakim Warrick(x2), Carmelo Anthony, John Wallace since 1996.

 

[SWC75]

You need a stud player you can go to when other things aren't working. When you wind up going to your point guard, who is supposed to be a distributor, the results are usually poor. Trying to funnel the ball into a center also gets bad results. You need a dominant forward or scoring guard. CJ wasn't that guy. Jerami might have become that guy in a year or two. Trevor wasn't that guy, either.

 

[NineOneSeven]

You need a stud player you can go to when other things aren't working. When you wind up going to your point guard, who is supposed to be a distributor, the results are usually poor. Trying to funnel the ball into a center also gets bad results. You need a dominant forward or scoring guard. CJ wasn't that guy. Jerami might have become that guy in a year or two. Trevor wasn't that guy, either.

Wes Johnson, Carmelo Anthony. Coincidence those were two of our best years ever? No.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

I knew an older UVA man who held this theory, he was pretty wise & I tried to argue against him but failed. Think you are right, unfortunately, but great work on the thread. Really good idea to look at this.

 

[statsgrad]

This is an absolutely ridiculous "study." Compare any team's number of All-Americans through the years to the number of All-Americans on title teams and it's going to look like that team didn't have many in comparison. All you're saying is that when you compare Syracuse to the best team in the country every year, Syracuse on average doesn't have as many high end players as the best team in the country does. It's a tautology.

 

[Libero2]

This is an absolutely ridiculous "study." Compare any team's number of All-Americans through the years to the number of All-Americans on title teams and it's going to look like that team didn't have many in comparison. All you're saying is that when you compare Syracuse to the best team in the country every year, Syracuse on average doesn't have as many high end players as the best team in the country does. It's a tautology.

I don't think that was his point.

The way I read it, was as a study to determine how many teams had all-americans (and what level they were) in years they won a title. In the end, he then throws in the fact we have not had many All-Americans that played for us, despite the considerable team success we have had during the time period of his study. Which in a way is actually pretty surprising that we have had so few AA's over the years.