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Message: [QUOTE="PoppyHart, post: 149855, member: 515"] A DVD recorder w/ a HD built into it is essentially a DVR, only in the U.S. you can't use the tuner and there's no program guide. You could, theoretically, get one and ditch your DVR, saving on your monthly cable bill. Also, it allows you to (semi-conveniently) do things like edit out commercials, create chapters, and optimize the recording speed to get the best picture quality when you transfer to DVD. Part of their higher cost, though, is probably due to the lack of availability/lack of competition. Places that sell them usually import them from Europe or Asia and mark them up big time. The PVRs are about $200; more than a bargain basement DVD recorder, less than a souped up one. I don't think there's a huge demand for them, but I've seen them in Best Buy and similar stores. I guess that's all they feel the market will bear. [/QUOTE]