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Message: [QUOTE="chakka3421, post: 2260890, member: 1091"] Both O and D performed significantly better in year 2 under Babers at other universities...except that they didn't face the schedule we face this year. It sucks to say this but a 5 win season would beat expectations (and maybe get us bowling) given our strength of schedule but a 6 win season would make believers out of all the naysayers going into year 3 - and a much weaker but in a rebuild under a new coach better schedule. My expectations are set at least 6 wins either 6-7 or 7-6 season...would be a huge statement of progression and deliverance on faith without evidence speech when Babers first started. Year 3 will be a big year...especially if SU has the balls to pay up to keep Babers at the end especially if he wins big with Dungey as a senior or DeVito in 2nd year. [/QUOTE]