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Message: [QUOTE="OrangeFoo, post: 1519652, member: 210"] Your post is an even bigger indictment on the Syracuse coaches. You reference a 4/5 year cycle for teams that are not top 15... we have been 15 years bad now. This isn't a pro team, the players have turned themselves over 3 or 4 times in that 15 year cycle. The only thing that has been consistent is the philosophy of trying to grind out wins with a good D and not being able to stop the new wave of college QBs and offenses when it counts. Not sure what makes anyone think hcss who subscribes to the same coaching philosophy as the last two guys is going to break us out of our 15/eternity cycle. I'd actually be extremely happy if we were on a 4/5 year cycle but we don't even seem remotely close to that. [/QUOTE]