Tempo

[Apdaly]

The narrative going around right now is that Syracuse new offense is slow it down and pound the ball. That’s not necessarily true. They are number 17 in the country with plays run over the last three games. Avg almost 80 plays a game (78.7). 2018 they ran 84 plays per game. This team plays with tempo and are putting up a lot of pts minus the Clemson game. It’s fun to watch!

 

[Chip]

The narrative going around right now is that Syracuse new offense is slow it down and pound the ball. That’s not necessarily true. They are number 17 in the country with plays run over the last three games. Avg almost 80 plays a game (78.7). 2018 they ran 84 plays per game. This team plays with tempo and are putting up a lot of pts minus the Clemson game. It’s fun to watch!

Part of it too is that it's long, sustained drives (as upperdeck pointed out in another thread). We're not getting great field position, but we're getting a lot of first downs on the ground or with short passes.

 

[CbusCuse]

Part of it too is that it's long, sustained drives (as upperdeck pointed out in another thread). We're not getting great field position, but we're getting a lot of first downs on the ground or with short passes.

Right. we are running a lot of plays because of getting first downs on long drives and keeping the ball. Means we are being successful. I don't think it has anything to do with a fast tempo though.

 

[Chip]

Right. we are running a lot of plays because of getting first downs on long drives and keeping the ball. Means we are being successful. I don't think it has anything to do with a fast tempo though.

We still have a comfortable tempo, I don't think we're running the play clock down close to zero every time (we do occasionally).

But it's not OITNF, which is perfectly fine.

 

[longtimefan]

The SU-Missouri game from 2012 was linked elsewhere. I was impressed by that offense. Marrone had decided to use a "hurry-up" attack in the middle of that season, and that squad executed it beautifully. I think the Senior Nassib is what Dino hoped Devito would be.

 

[XC Cuse]

It's almost like the offense needs a quarterback who can sustain drives in order to have tempo. Don't want to throw more dirt on Devito, but his drives were either quickly over in a down or two, or he made a nice long throw, and we'd score quick. Shrader can sustain the drives Devito never could.

 

[Chip]

The SU-Missouri game from 2012 was linked elsewhere. I was impressed by that offense. Marrone had decided to use a "hurry-up" attack in the middle of that season, and that squad executed it beautifully. I think the Senior Nassib is what Dino hoped Devito would be.

I'm pretty sure he went to the no huddle during preseason practice and it was unveiled in the opening game against Northwestern in the Dome.

 

[longtimefan]

I'm pretty sure he went to the no huddle during preseason practice and it was unveiled in the opening game against Northwestern in the Dome.

Could be.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I'm pretty sure he went to the no huddle during preseason practice and it was unveiled in the opening game against Northwestern in the Dome.

That's exactly what happened. IIRC, Marrone and Hackett realized during Summer Camp that the offense was working way better during 2 Minute Drill sessions and changed their plan of attack like 3 weeks before the NW game.

 

[GreekFreak]

Our drives have tended to be longer for a couple of reasons:
1. The defense is not forcing turnovers at anywhere near the clip of previous seasons so we aren’t getting a short field.
2. Our punting has been…not good. Seems like when we exchange punts from defensive stops we loose 20-30 yards in the exchange. Again, we have a long field.

The offense has been pretty good at sustained drives particularly at the end of a half. This gets our play numbers up. I don’t care about tempo as long as we win and our offense is finally fun to watch again.

 

[steve deberg]

I'm pretty sure he went to the no huddle during preseason practice and it was unveiled in the opening game against Northwestern in the Dome.

If I remember correctly, Pugh was hurt early in the season and it was around his return midway through the year when the no huddle really started clicking.

That stacked trips formation that led to the Lemon game winner against Mizzou is something I’d like to see implemented into our current offence.

 

[syrBossHogg]

 

[sufandu]

The narrative going around right now is that Syracuse new offense is slow it down and pound the ball. That’s not necessarily true. They are number 17 in the country with plays run over the last three games. Avg almost 80 plays a game (78.7). 2018 they ran 84 plays per game. This team plays with tempo and are putting up a lot of pts minus the Clemson game. It’s fun to watch!

The number of plays with this team is less about tempo and more about long drives. It would be interesting to see the numbers for drives per game and average plays per drive compared to 2016-2018.

 

[JackBauer44]

Tempo is predicated off moving the chains and sustaining plays that result in positive yardage pickups. It's really hard to run tempo when you can't sustain drives and running the ball results in 2-3 yards. Over the past two weeks, as they've allowed GS to throw the ball more, and he's completing more intermediate passes, that's allowing us speed it up a bit. TD did not help us there. It's no surprise to me that the more comfortable GS gets, the faster we are going to go. It's a really positive development. It also helps the running game immensely as well. Looking forward to BC this weekend. I'll be watching from a golf cart in Raleigh,NC!

 

[upperdeck]

with tempo comes the question on play calling.. do we call the play and go and force the D to react or are we seeing what the D is doing and calling the play going to the line and adjusting. we could be calling 2 plays pre snap and then looking over and making the decision.

in the old up tempo days you got the play on the fly called it and off you go.. We seldom do that much any more, but by still hustling to the line you force the D into some sets you might be able to better play call against, so if we dont get plays off in under 20 secs but we still get the D to commit to something faster the effect may be better play results even by going slightly slower.

we also get more plays if we are getting more pretty good plays and less bad or explosive plays.

the fact we ran so many plays sat even as VT had several good drives showed a pretty good offense for an entire game. we couldnt afford many 3 and outs.

 

[RoatanCuse]

It's almost like the offense needs a quarterback who can sustain drives in order to have tempo. Don't want to throw more dirt on Devito, but his drives were either quickly over in a down or two, or he made a nice long throw, and we'd score quick. Shrader can sustain the drives Devito never could.

Great point. Sustained drives are important for the defense too.