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Message: [QUOTE="SU2NASA, post: 40325, member: 800"] The Big East was a shitshow in 2004. Adding ConferenceUSA teams diluted the brand, regardless of what they may have done on the field. You could argue that what they did hurt the brand as schools like Cincinnati and UConn have won the conference. No matter what, those schools are not thought of highly as BCS-level programs. The Big East already became ConferenceUSA Part II, now it's just completing the deal. And that's not including the 16-team unwieldy basketball conference with the likes of DePaul, Seton Hall, Providence, et. al. The conference was a mess, and it still is whether Pitt and SU had stayed or not. There's a reason they left, and it's because of the very fact of the lack of stability of the Big East. [/QUOTE]