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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 4774819, member: 874"] Yeah, I said that. I didn't say he was ONLY a game manager. But in comparing the two QBs he was more of one than Shrader is. I stand by that. Shrader is asked to shoulder more of the offensive load and save broken plays in a way Nassib didn't have to. I define a game manager is a QB that is able to operate an offense within a scheme but not good at making things happen when something breaks down. It's not as simple as passing ability or the ability to scramble/run. Guys like Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady never had the strongest arms or were great runners like Cunningham, Young, or Tarkenton, but they had a way of making plays even when things went off script or ways of controlling defenses that go beyond physical attributes. In my opinion, Nassib just wasn't real strong in that area. He had a strong arm and developed into an accurate passer by his senior year. In 2012 he distributed the ball well, and he and the running game that had an 1100 yard an 800 yard rusher were great complements to one another. It was an offense where the sum was greater than it's parts because all the pieces worked so well together. But, again, you're too fixated on one comment about being a game manager. Let me rephrase things. I think this offense places greater demands on Shrader than that offense did on Nassib. I think defenses specifically game plan more to try to stop Shrader than they did for Nassib. Despite that, Shrader produces numbers comparible to Nassib. Because you continue to dodge my question about switching situations, I'll give my opinion on it. If Shrader is on the 2012 team, I think we are still an 8 win team. If Nassib is on last year's team, I don't think we make it to a bowl game. All of that is why I favor Shrader. Nassib was good, especially his senior year. I just think Shrader is better. For me, the more difficult distinction is Dungey vs Shrader. [/QUOTE]

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