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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 4830947, member: 628"] My point is that Bowden left after the 2009 season. Jimbo won his title in [I]2013[/I]. Ol' Bobby wasn't "emeritus" then, he was lonnnng gone. He certainly wasn't closing high school recruiting battles 4 years into retirement. Doing fundraising, yes. People love to retcon history when they're upset. I have no doubt the goobers at FSU are now all like [I]"Jimbo won with Bobby's boys! He always sucked!"[/I] But that seems to be easily proven false. I mean, if Autry wins a national title in 2027, and someone years later said that was really Boeheim's doing, we'd laugh them off the board. [/QUOTE]