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According to Greg swaim by trying to push ND as a member for all sports but fb. Thusly helping the long horn network.

Have to think that is a huge step backwards from raiding the acc.
 
I thought most of the Big12 was trying to do this. Hasn't this been a rumor for a month or so now?
 
Aside from Texas and, maybe, Kansas and Oklahoma I really doubt ND has any interest in rubbing shoulders with the Big 12 gang. And the Texas-ND romance basically comes down the Dodds and Swarbrick being BFFs. While I normally discount anything Swaim says, I think he's probably on solid ground here but no way ND will bite.
 
Jake said:
According to Greg swaim by trying to push ND as a member for all sports but fb. Thusly helping the long horn network.

Have to think that is a huge step backwards from raiding the acc.
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How does that help the longhorn network? By putting more eyes on other sports being aired on the channel?
 
Whitey23 said:
How does that help the longhorn network? By putting more eyes on other sports being aired on the channel?
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Basically, since LHN televises mostly Tier 3 events, which usually includes non-revenue sports like baseball, softball, etc.
 
ND will still much rather have their non-FB sports playing Marquette, SJU, Villanova, Georgetown, Providence, UConn etc, than playing Kansas, Iowa State, Texas Tech et al. Soccer? Women's basketball? Lacrosse? Would they really uproot any of their sports to get the basically the same deal they already have? I highly doubt it.
 
I'm reading on another forum that ND and NBC are talking about the possibility of ND creating their own channel similar to LHN.
 
All4SU said:
ND will still much rather have their non-FB sports playing Marquette, SJU, Villanova, Georgetown, Providence, UConn etc, than playing Kansas, Iowa State, Texas Tech et al. Soccer? Women's basketball? Lacrosse? Would they really uproot any of their sports to get the basically the same deal they already have? I highly doubt it.
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And why would the Big 12 want ND as a bowl tie in? The Big East needs ND to make itself attractive to bowls. ND needs a partner because it can't play in 3 bowl games a year.
 
Ucon joins the B1G before Notre Dame joins the B12.*



































*The B1G will never invite Uconn.
 
KaiserUEO said:
Notre Dame hasnt decided yet. when they do, theyll let GE know.
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I think you mean Kabletown.

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A little background:

Texas has been courting ND for the past two years (at least since Texas started flirting with the B1G). The Big 12 needs ND to fly cover for them as ND does for the Big East. If ND is associated with a conference, that conference will not be set aside from the Big Boys' Table (so the thought is). Also, the conference has a ready ally when voting (BCS, Playoffs). Yes, ND would bring more names to the LHN, but as has already been mentioned, that is for 3T games (cheesy football/hoops and money losing sports). ND will not appear on the LHN in football or hoops. Many times, here in Texas, rumors have surfaced that ND was joining the Big 12 in all sports. UT sees itself as an equal to ND.

One benefit of ND to the Big 12 is that the Big 12 would like to kill off the Big East (at least permanently remove the Big East from the Big Boys' Table). This has a two main benefits: 1) Less mouths to feed at the top, more money for the five top conferences; and, 2) it would take away a place of refuge for the undesirables in the Big 12 should Texas start flirting with the B1G or Pac 12. As it stands, the undesirables (Kansas, KState, ISU, TTech, Baylor, WVU, TCU, OSU) could leave the Big 12 en masse and destroy the conference (it won't happen without Texas making a move first), but need a place to go. Up to two can go with UT and OU, but the six need a place to land. It is possible ISU and Kansas could get in the B1G, but only if the B1G wants to expand at that time. The Big East would provide a soft landing if it is still around as a Big Boy, or at least much bigger than the Mid-Majors.

We have already seen that the Big 12 thinks they can kill off the ACC (make the ACC irrelevant).
 
HtownOrange said:
A little background:

Texas has been courting ND for the past two years (at least since Texas started flirting with the B1G). The Big 12 needs ND to fly cover for them as ND does for the Big East. If ND is associated with a conference, that conference will not be set aside from the Big Boys' Table (so the thought is). Also, the conference has a ready ally when voting (BCS, Playoffs). Yes, ND would bring more names to the LHN, but as has already been mentioned, that is for 3T games (cheesy football/hoops and money losing sports). ND will not appear on the LHN in football or hoops. Many times, here in Texas, rumors have surfaced that ND was joining the Big 12 in all sports. UT sees itself as an equal to ND.

One benefit of ND to the Big 12 is that the Big 12 would like to kill off the Big East (at least permanently remove the Big East from the Big Boys' Table). This has a two main benefits: 1) Less mouths to feed at the top, more money for the five top conferences; and, 2) it would take away a place of refuge for the undesirables in the Big 12 should Texas start flirting with the B1G or Pac 12. As it stands, the undesirables (Kansas, KState, ISU, TTech, Baylor, WVU, TCU, OSU) could leave the Big 12 en masse and destroy the conference (it won't happen without Texas making a move first), but need a place to go. Up to two can go with UT and OU, but the six need a place to land. It is possible ISU and Kansas could get in the B1G, but only if the B1G wants to expand at that time. The Big East would provide a soft landing if it is still around as a Big Boy, or at least much bigger than the Mid-Majors.

We have already seen that the Big 12 thinks they can kill off the ACC (make the ACC irrelevant).
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Any conference with Texas and OU doesn't have to worry about not being "at the big boy table".
 
GoSU96 said:
Any conference with Texas and OU doesn't have to worry about not being "at the big boy table".
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makes you wonder why ND didnt form their own conference and invite who they pleased.
 
GoSU96 said:
Any conference with Texas and OU doesn't have to worry about not being "at the big boy table".
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Nor do they have to worry about the other teams in the league leaving them. It's Conference Socialism, the other schools need them.

Any conference with FSU and Clemson doesn't have to worry about not being at the big boy table either. The smart people at those schools know that. The dumb ones do not.
 
The BCS meeting was the commissioners of the Pac-12, Big Ten, Big 12, SEC, ACC, and Notre Dame.

Why again would Notre Dame give up being independent?
 
SU2NASA said:
The BCS meeting was the commissioners of the Pac-12, Big Ten, Big 12, SEC, ACC, and Notre Dame.

Why again would Notre Dame give up being independent?
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Was the NBig East not represented at the meetings?
 
All4SU said:
Just curious. I think it's very significant if they were not.
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I'd guess they probably were, and I'm sure no one really noticed either way.
 
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