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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4841895, member: 5685"] I disagree with that. While Dino's ingame management was awful and frustrating as can be, I don't think it cost us actual Ws. Same with the penalties, which BTW are also on the OC and DC not just Dino. So why would we believe those get fixed? The problem was recruiting, and inept O, and no shows/unprepared games. Both Beck and White were part of the recruiting and no shows, so why would we believe those to stop? Beck was part of the inept O, so why does that change without Dino? Both Beck and White contributed to our main issues. The minor issues that were solely on Dino, are secondary issues. If hiring White fixes the secondary issues, it won't make much of a difference unless the primary issues are resolved. [/QUOTE]