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[QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 1330447, member: 237"]
That is far from what I am saying. It is a supplemental fact. The point here is that if we failed it is in not having a system setup like UK to conceal the cheating excessively. If you think they are clean you are just wrong. I will put any wager on it. So those screaming in anger of SU's lack of accountability or being a cheater need to realize that your anger is better served to be towards the fact we self reported. If anything I am glad to see after 10 years and offering a library of details, this is all they could find. And with that it was clear we do have a program that values doing the right thing. Even if we didnt execute on it perfectly there was accountability for it and efforts taken to improve. Penn st locked everything up tight. UNC had for a while just the same. With the history of Adolph Rupp, the tubby smith firing, the gillespie ordeal and now hiring a guy who has clearly played outside the rules in the past do you think there was not a reason they brought in a former ncaa compliance guru? I am sure she has had tons of things removed from the books or hidden with procedures in place to handle every potential violation. When Kanter got ruled ineligible if the ncaa came sweeping in then it could have been an interesting outcome.

So go ahead and call me a hater or in denial but i say you have to be in your own world to think UK is somehow not cheating excessively. The signs are there.
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