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Message: [QUOTE="Oráiste, post: 1884510, member: 5974"] Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I am not trying to talk you out of yours, but it is awfully convenient to give Mike inordinate credit for a team success while at the same time absolving him from team disappointments. I love MG, I honor him and the entire 2016 team. But IMHO he does not quite rise to the level of "greats," neither all time nor over the last 15 seasons (during which period we've had more than a dozen guys make an All American list). [/QUOTE]