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Message: [QUOTE="TheOrangeBuddha, post: 438413, member: 157"] I hear you, but Vegas (not done scrub dude) is not in the business of losing money. An upset by any reasonable definition is when one team is favored over another team yet loses. In this case we aren't talking about a measly point or two. It was a TD plus. I feel safe in stating that I stand correct in my initial comment re: NW win over Sparty was an upset, notwithstanding your personal metric on how to determine upsets. Peace Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]