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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4042037, member: 5685"] I wonder what would have happened had he stayed longer. His last 2 years were trending down but he did enough to keep the job. UCLA got greedy going after Chip. If you look at UCLA before and after, the Mora years were better. And going even further back you can argue he was the best HC since Donahue left. He took over the biggest mess and almost did the most with it. Bob Toledo Overall .610 Conference .571 Karl Dorrell O .558 C .571 Rick Neuheisel O .412 C .361 Jim Mora O .605 C .536 Chip Kelly O .375 C .419 [/QUOTE]