The 5 big conferences and avoiding college football

[BORZAK]

Monopoly. We need to leave NCAA control or the government declares a monopoly and draws off funds. Our own football and basketball championships.


We are so lucky we made it to the ACC

 

[texascpa]

How would it be a monopoly when there are other divisions?

 

[BORZAK]

How would it be a monopoly when there are other divisions?

That's why they leave so there is no monopoly.

 

[Crusty]

To be correct it would be an oligopoly. The specter of the government is always on the mind of college and professional athletic professionals. The tax spotlight has already been shone on the tax exempt status of the PGA and the NFL, There is already so much money on the table in D-1 football that the risk is already there. It wouldn't surprise me to see some of the losers like UConn (see what I did there Marsh?) start making noise through their senators. An overreach could certainly backfire.

 

[orange79]

To be correct it would be an oligopoly. The specter of the government is always on the mind of college and professional athletic professionals. The tax spotlight has already been shone on the tax exempt status of the PGA and the NFL, There is already so much money on the table in D-1 football that the risk is already there. It wouldn't surprise me to see some of the losers like UConn (see what I did there Marsh?) start making noise through their senators. An overreach could certainly backfire.

Yep. Baby steps

 

[HtownOrange]

If the Power 5 completely separate from the NCAA, they have to create from scratch an organization that parallels the NCAA. This new beast would be duplicitous and costly. It makes economical sense to create a new classification of football or change the current rules to what the Power 5 want than foot the bill of a new large orgaization. Besides, the cash cow that is the NCAA hoops tourney would be destroyed without the mid majors and the magic of Cinderella's popping up annually. There is no way a P5 hoops tourney has that kind of magic and draw, nor depth - there are only 65 teams for the current 68 teams, assuming every P5 team gets in.

 

[BORZAK]

I have not look at it closely but percentage of the sweet 16. Has been power 5 schools. In the last 10-20 years. What percentage of all selections are P5. NCAA money is basketball. Nothing from bowl games

 

[HtownOrange]

I have not look at it closely but percentage of the sweet 16. Has been power 5 schools. In the last 10-20 years. What percentage of all selections are P5. NCAA money is basketball. Nothing from bowl games

The fact that the NCAA gets nothing from the bowls is a perfect reason to NOT separate but work within the current framework. The P5 already get the football money, all that is necessary is to change the rules to their liking or create a new division.

The NCAA hoops tourney pays for every other sport as it is now. All championships, administration, enforcement (try not to laugh too hard), clearance and avoids antitrust issues. The P5 aren't looking to change everything, only football. No need to reinvent the wheel, just improve it.

 

[BORZAK]

The fact that the NCAA gets nothing from the bowls is a perfect reason to NOT separate but work within the current framework. The P5 already get the football money, all that is necessary is to change the rules to their liking or create a new division.

The NCAA hoops tourney pays for every other sport as it is now. All championships, administration, enforcement (try not to laugh too hard), clearance and avoids antitrust issues. The P5 aren't looking to change everything, only football. No need to reinvent the wheel, just improve it.

The Goverment wants to get in on the money thru declaring a monopoly. That's why you separate.

 

[HtownOrange]

The Goverment wants to get in on the money thru declaring a monopoly. That's why you separate.

What is the government's share of s private monopoly?

If I recall, monopoly status allows the government regulatory control but they do not receive profits. This is not the Post Office or a government owned utility company. The NCAA is a private concern, a nonprofit organization.

 

[Moontan]

The NCAA is a private concern, a nonprofit organization.

Yup, a "non-profit" that doles out billions of dollars.

 

[HtownOrange]

Yup, a "non-profit" that doles out billions of dollars.

Most non-profits dole out money (many do research so they are not giving away money or service). Also, the NCAA is a nonprofit paying monies to other nonprofits (member schools). The key is that investors (read CBS, other TV partners, member schools, advertisers, etc.) cannot take private profits from the NCAA funds nor from school funds.