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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 2699215, member: 622"] ND is a bit of a free radical. You view that they are arrogant has some merit. My view is that they have accepted the fate that they will not get into the playoffs unless they deserve as voted by the committee. AS they will lack a conference championship, that is their choice. Virtually every conference champion will have an extra top level game via the conference championship. This lessens the odds of ND getting in. If they have a top four ranking at the end of the season it will be based on their strength of schedule and performance. If they get in, another team does not deserve to get in. At least one conference champion will not get in annually. If you want to discuss the merits of ND and the ACC, perhaps it should be a new thread. This tread is about Pitt, the ACC and Pitt's perspective. [/QUOTE]