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Message: [QUOTE="Crusty, post: 1554019, member: 2265"] I only quoted total offense for brevity. Things don't change much when you look at yards per play, which has nothing to do with our defense, pace per play or number of snaps. Part of the problem is that our 3rd down conversion is 11th. That is totally on the offense. We are 103rd nationally in 3rd down conversions. In the ACC we are: 9th in scoring offense (not taking away defensive scores). 7th in rushing yards per attempt 12th in passing yards per attempt 11th in yards per play total There is only one metric in which we have improved and that is red zone conversions. We are mired at the bottom of our conference, which is where our recruiting classes have ranked. It is sad and and I would like to say there is light at the end of the tunnel, but you really have to go a long way to rationalize the teams performance. [/QUOTE]