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Message: [QUOTE="Shrmdougluvr, post: 1567425, member: 396"] I agree with all of that. But Oregon has done pretty well with promoting its coordinators. There are some other examples of guys who got power 5 gigs for their first HC job who have done well - Stoops, Gundy, Strong, Swinney, Fisher, Freeze, Mullen, Richt, Franklin, Chryst, Fitzgerald (he and his NW program are often mentioned as a benchmark for SU), Shaw, Leach, RichRod (if you dont count a D2 program). So it's not unprecedented. And, the MAC, Sun Belt, Conference USA guys flame out just as often as they are successful. Bottom line, if Coyle think Frost has all the chops, there is no reason not to make the hire. Higher risk or not. I do worry about his ability to recruit the East coast and pull together an East coast oriented staff. Almost all of the above-coaches were promotions within or were already working in the respective region. [/QUOTE]