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Message: [QUOTE="Townie72, post: 1772376, member: 780"] IMO the anger that so many of the RU people feel for SU is rooted in our fan base's unwillingness to consider them as a rival. A position they seemed to want desperately because it imbued their program a legitimacy it never had. Consider the RU fan base's current Rivalry target, Penn State. Another example of trying to associate themselves with a program with a history of success and tradition. They are trying to take a short cut to prominence. As RU fans are discovering once again, just moving to a "better neighborhood" doesn't mean the new neighbors are going to accept you. We have a huge thread on Rutgers, obviously. But its almost all about derision not rivalry. [/QUOTE]