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Message: [QUOTE="NJCuse97, post: 1817573, member: 5058"] You are correct about the memory of recruits and the need for a better recent history, however my post was about the hope of the fan base, not the recruits. How the recruits play in (as well as the longer history) is if either of us has a bad season. That is when the recruits get told to look at the history of the program or the coach and that is where I believe Syracuse has stronger legs to stand on. Give them both three years, yes, but we both understand that 3-9 seasons often beget 3-9 seasons, unless you can recruit better talent or have a proven scheme that just needs time to sink in. Recruits and fans alike can have blind faith in the Babers system as it has a track record. Ash does not have that benefit, no matter how good a coach he really can be. Schiano rallied state pride better than any coach you've ever had, but in ten years, he was a .500 coach with only 4 winning records in conference play (all in a post 2004 weakened Big East) From his Wikipedia page: [I]On December 1, 2000, Schiano accepted the head coaching position at Rutgers,[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Schiano#cite_note-5'][5][/URL] the state university of New Jersey. In 2001, his first season as head coach, the Scarlet Knights posted a 2–9 record (0–7 in the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_(1979%E2%80%932013)']Big East[/URL]), followed by a 1–11 mark (0–7 Big East) in 2002. This was followed by a 5–7 record (2–5 Big East) in 2003. In 2004, Schiano took on defensive coordinator responsibilities as well, and the team finished 4–7 (1–5 Big East). Although Schiano was producing solid recruiting classes, especially by Rutgers standards, his 3–24 record in conference games and 4–17 record in road games in those first four years were a cause for concern for some fans.[/I] [I][/I] Combine that with the history. Schiano has the school's first [I][B]ever[/B][/I] bowl win in 2006. This from the oldest collegiate football team in the country. That is what opposing coaches tell Rutgers commits after a 3-9 season. They may not know it now, but they will if someone else wants them. [/QUOTE]

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