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[QUOTE="Townie72, post: 2204356, member: 780"]
A defense of "New Brunswick is not as bad as it used to be" isn't very inspiring.

And it's just not the crime and decay that make that part of New Jersey an awful place to live and to go to school. It's the attitudes and behavior of the people. I grew up in Princeton, which was an oasis between NB and Trenton and when I go back there I am stunned by the aggressiveness and rudeness of the drivers and the people.   Compared to North Jersey, DC is actually a friendly place populated by polite people. (that's only in comparison to NJ)

The image I have in my head of the NB area is of unrelenting traffic, decaying housing stock. strip malls, and chemical plants making the air barely breathable.

And the climate stinks. It's beastly hot and humid in the Summer and damp, cold and rainy in the Winter.  Syracuse is colder and snowier, but the difference is that the Syracuse winter starts a few weeks sooner and ends a few weeks later. There's more snow in Syracuse, but when you are a college student and don't drive, who cares? Summers in CNY are far superior to the sweltering heat and humidity of NJ.

When I used to travel from NJ to Syracuse, I can remember how much more pleasant it was than NJ. The air seemed cleaner, the surroundings prettier,  and the traffic wasn't even an issue.

I used to play golf at uncrowded Green Lakes park for a couple of dollars as a student. Try doing that in Central NJ.

Don't try to sell New Brunswick to me as being better than just about anyplace in the US. I'll bet if you took a poll of people in Middlesex County on how many of them would like to leave if they could make a living elsewhere, you would get a very large percentage of them wanting out.
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