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[QUOTE="tipphill, post: 2205015, member: 4809"]
i am not sure why the level of hostility. i am not trying to sell nj to anyone. i would take upstate ny any day and you are right about the unending traffic, which by the way stretches into pa. princeton is awesome as is much of northern mercer and hunterdon county.
 further, i have often said that i have never been as cold in my life as i was in nj, as the winters are very humid rainy and wet, and everything is a shade of brown. princeton is an awesome area.
   that said, i point out that your rabid description of todays new brunswick correlates  with what rutgers fans think of syracuse and upstate ny---totally biased,uninformed  and inaccurate.  they r transitioning much like syracuse.  upstate ny is beautiful and i miss it ---i am up there 6-7 times year---and am a big finger lakes guy. that does not mean i cannot appreciate the other areas of the country are trying to re-invent themselves.
   you r also right, that most people in middlesex county would bail if given the opportunity, but the work is in northern nj and ny. 
 i don't care that u lived in princeton, of which i am very familiar. the mere beauty of the topography of upstate dwarfs what u find in a lot of nj. however, i was not trying to compare which is better as imho there is no comparison, rather pointing out that things change.your rant seems to be responding to some other issue you have and not to the urban renewal of new brunswick.
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