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Message: [QUOTE="Townie72, post: 2242843, member: 780"] What you say is true. And NJ has a similar system that includes schools like Montclair. But Rutgers for the friends I had was a low-quality college experience. The academics, at least at Rutgers College, were fine. But the rest of it was grim. Students regularly fled the campus on weekends to go home or to other colleges. It was always the epitome of a "Suitcase College". I'll stick with my assertion that no one I knew that went there really wanted to go there. And that NJ students avoid it if they are financially able. I have friends in Michigan. They actually wanted to go to UM or Michigan State. That is NOT what you get in New Jersey. [/QUOTE]