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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 2667976, member: 2585"] NJ is not Midwest in any way shape or form. You could easily make the case that rural upstate NY has plenty in common with parts of the south. We’re not arguing that we are relevant *in CFB* ... or that anyone should be holding their breath outside in upstate NY. Much like FSU, we’ve had dominate runs in college sports and also look down on schools without that sustained success as irrelevant (like FSU in college basketball). (Although you could easily make the case that we’ve had a bigger impact in CFB than FSU has had in MBB. Heisman winner, greatest RB of all time, national champs) As for Ash - what has he showed us that is better than Greg Robinson? [/QUOTE]