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Message: [QUOTE="atom58, post: 3172844, member: 5312"] "Misery loves company" goes the old saying and since my alma mater (FSU) has been "down" for several years, it is OK to look around for someone in worse condition. SUNJ as John Casillo at the "Troy Nunes" site refers to them, indeed has a long history of non-accomplishment in multiple sports. They would have been better off in the ACC I think (competitive-wise, as would Maryland - a big mistake that they left not knowing there would be an ACC linear network) although multiple teams in the ACC (including your beloved SU) are making big efforts to get better at playing football in the near-term and that should eventually payoff with more balance in the Conference. The one story about SUNJ that always "cracks me up" is when several of their players were arrested for a home invasion robbery - and one of them was majoring in criminal justice! Like you might say "you can't make this stuff up!" [/QUOTE]