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Message: [QUOTE="wfschrec, post: 3642538, member: 361"] Never said MD was good ... however if you take the staff and the team for RU from 2019 they lose that game going away. Frankly I loathe RU and Schiano ... but folks here need to come to grips with certain realities ... RU didn't play a cream puff this year and are far better offensively than they were last year without playing teams like Howard to pad stats. In 8 games they are only a few hundred shy of the total passing yards they put up last year in 12 games ... and lets not even get into the INT/TD ratio difference. Honestly knowing this gives me the hope that SU can invoke a similar turn around and hiring White and hopefully Gilbert will do that for us. We have a lot to cleanup and as I said earlier as a program I do believe we have more upside for a variety of reasons but we have a hard time looking at things realistically as fans. [/QUOTE]